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>Agnosticism understands that there is no evidence for either claim, intellectual integrity -- (Agnostic Cyborg) This is proof if it is authentic. ...we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the ... Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. ...when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. 2 Peter 1:16-18 The Church and everything associated with it does exist, it■s not logical to believe that it spontaneously came to be, Atheists and Agnostics need to address that fact. >"I am too weak"... The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. Psalms 14:1 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: ...That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. Isaiah 45:5-6 Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. Out of heaven he made thee to hear his voice, Deut 4:35-36 ...there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:12 A world without religion is a world without charity, only competition. Nobody could survive that world. The only reason to avoid finding the truth is the abominable works. >...freedoms of the few, which see nothing but their own wants, will be our deadly mistake. (dornth, AZ) >...Morality was there the first day we stepped away from the cave. (RobertSRQ) Cavemen used their ownership of property to enforce their moraliy; money became a substitute for property. If you are King of the Jungle it is indeed a JUNGLE to which you are king. >Anyone that thinks that morality exists separate from religious influence is an idiot. (warren, olathe) >I would rather be a moral idiot than an immoral Christian (Anonymous) I would rather do Abominable Works at someone else's expense than hang them on the Cross where I can see them?