“There is a de facto “secret government” operating nationally and internationally and involved in the highest circles of the U.S. government, exercising an impact over domestic policies and economics ranging between extreme influence to, at times, outright control. This extreme influence to outright control naturally includes the Presidency. The de facto “secret government,” much of whose intellectual—and financial—muscle are to be found in the New York office of the CFR, the great tax-free foundations, and certain international firms and corporations.”

I certainly hope so. I would hate to think that the lying, thieving, impoverishing, and enslaving criminal despots of the current intangible ethos were with out some sort of intelligent felonious design directing them.

Crazy ramblings of the paranoid trying to find order and patterns where there is only opportunistic self-interest of the greedy.

Bull Shit but half true. True in the sense that there are always forces outside of our knowledge. Who in the hell do we think we are that we might be all knowing. The outside force I worry most about is that secret guy who is hitting on my girlfriend. As Mumbai recently found there is some secret guys brooding in Waziristan also. Otherwise Culbert is full of shit.

Reston is partially right. That is yet another reason for sticking to the Constitution and not creating seats of power for the taking. The CFR IS a shadow government -- that was its intent and it has been succeeding with little resistance, mostly because its members are the press, bankers and politicians who will not report on themselves.

Does anybody have any news out there?

Cullbert is just another guy who found out things that he never new before and called it a "secret". When I start school and as I continued I learned many "secrets". At some point some of us never are any longer amazed that we are able to learn new secrets everyday. Others like Steve Martin in the movie The Jerk are still amazed every day.

CFR ???? ACRONYMS can be confusing Clear the stage on first line just after the acronym CFR (Council of Foreign Relations) or could it be Canadian Foreign Relations or Cuba

Yea Yea Yea crap for saps.