Vladimir Ilyich LeninVladimir Ilyich Lenin, [Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov] (1870-1924) First Leader of the Soviet Union

Vladimir Ilyich Lenin Quote

“While the State exists, there can be no freedom. When there is freedom there will be no State.”

Vladimir Ilyich LeninVladimir Ilyich Lenin
~ Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

"State and Revolution", 1919

Ratings and Comments

Anonymous, Reston, VA US

The two are orthogonal...

Joe, Rochester, MI

Regardless of how you choose to describe the relationship ... diametrically opposed, orthogonal, inverse, opposite, reversed, upside down, etc. ... more government = less freedom ... less government = more freedom. Liberals love to change the meaning of words to suit their purpose.

Eric, Wichita, KS

Another of history's gibbering idiots heard from.

Mike, Norwalk

Eric, you've made me smile, I agree. Also, said well Joe. In the de jure U. S. republic a limited state is freedom.

E Archer, NYC

5 stars for telling the absolute truth. No country on Earth has yet achieved ideal Freedom or an ideal State. I guess that is the endless unfolding drama of civilization. With no State, the individual is self-governing and thus required to voluntarily uphold the virtues (please don't confuse 'virtues' with 'religion') that support Liberty for all -- a utopian ideal for sure, but what the hey, it's still worth shooting for. ;-)

Howard, New York

It is fascinating the parallels with the extreme right wing in the USA

dave, mn
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dave, mn    11/18/09

Its blunt and the truth. We must admire the dictators honesty. Today the left hides those desires and is sneaky about that truth.

Al, DC
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Al, DC    12/9/14
jim k, Austin

Joe, Rochester , Your comment is right on target.

cal, lewisville, tx

He certainly knew what he was talking about.

Mike, Norwalk

I guess, for this to be accurate, a definition of "State" would have to be established. If State is used exclusively as power and authority over individuals, the statement is absolutely correct. It State were to define a body of servants, representing individual sovereign's inalienable rights, the statement is absolutely false.

Ronw13, Oregon

True, without individual sovereignty, there is only State/and or Nation sovereignty, not excluding Monarchs. Yes today many speak of sovereignty of nations, well enough, but it is the individual sovereign lifted up from oppression, Set at economic, physical and spiritual liberty which provides the sacred cause of Liberty with Freedom to defend said liberties. Notice how the world stage avoids at all cost, even the mention of "individual sovereignty." it is appalling in America when elites sit in ivory towers carved from the backs, the labor of the once Free. From the local to state and federal governments, all must pay tribute or else, exaction by force.  


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