“The basis of a democratic state is liberty.”

Sillik, your circular word salad here is baseless rhetoric. AND, if you define your stated terms (basis, state, appropriate, civilized, behavior) through your personal dictionary for mentally ill children, it could only make less sense (if that were possible).

Classic generalizations aimed at feeble and unthinking minds, Fred.  What is "appropriate"?  Who determines it?  What is "civilized"?  Who defines it?  This is what wars are fought over — the details.  Typical politico-speak. 

Now you try to best Aristotle!  Gee, you must be the wisest man in the world — for you have not agreed with a single quote on this blog yet.  Let that sink in...

What is appropriate, Mr Archer, is the actions that promotes the dimension of life. 
Civilized is the behavioral practices that, again, promotes the dimension of life. Sounds like I'm repeating myself, I am, we are not all that complex. No, the war are fought so the explanation details get lost so the haves can keep on having.  No, I'm not that smart, what's a blog?

Again, you fail to define 'appropriate' or 'civilized' by using introducing new jargon.  What is a 'dimension of life'?  What 'promotes' it?  This is what I am talking about.  This is pseudointellectualism. 

Be specific, give examples, PROVE it.  It's not enough to just declare your bloated sophistry as fact.  Sheesh..  This is exactly what Kamala Harris would do when answering questions — when you take her answers apart they say nothing, just deflect until the next question comes up.

Try this: go to chatgpt.com, ask it to rephrase your response and then ask it what, if any, are the arguments you are making.  Then see if anyone but you understands what you are talking about.  Ask ChatGPT what political ideologies do your words most align with — don't take my word for it.

Ask ChatGPT to ask you a series of questions to determine your political ideology and general philosophy, then answer them and let me know what it says.  Maybe AI can figure it out, because no one else here can.

No, Archer I'm being quite candid and original. The "pseudointellectualism" is you in projection mode. You are what is refered colloquially as flat-earther.  You mentality supports the death dimension, making up nonsense as they go. I support the life dimension of reproduction and growth. You make the same claims for Donald Trump as you can Kamala Harris, they both support the status quo. I support and demonstrate change. 

Correction: there is no fundamental difference between Mr Trump, Mrs. Harris, or you.

Not generalizing at all, it's quite specific. The state is in a eternal challenge to reach a state of positive, productive order.  The state is continuously striving to find the behavior that will encourage and facilitate the dimension of life.  Proper messaging and coordination are continual sought, identified, and disseminated.

Just repeating the same jargon doesn't make it any more understandable.  Not specific at all.

"The state is in a[n] eternal challenge to reach a state of positive, productive order."  The 'state' is a strawman — this is a collectivist/statist view.  'We the People' comprise the nation and have chartered a limited government for the mutual protection of our natural-born rights from those that wish to usurp them (like your 'state') whether foreign or domestic.

Define a "state of positive, productive order."  Sounds just like every communist leader.

"The state is continuously striving to find the behavior that will encourage and facilitate the dimension of life."  What happens when the government (the state) 'finds' the behavior they seek?  Whose behavior?  What behavior?  How will this behavior be enforced upon We the People?  Who has authorized the state with the power to impose the behavior?  Remember that 'the state' is just a coterie of other people, they are not meant to be all-powerful beings seeking to find the best way to be and then impose it upon the rest of us. 

WE THE PEOPLE shall pursue our own happiness individually and in our own way.  We are not to be dictated to by the likes of 'the state'.  Sheesh, your utopian state is nothing but a Caesar "continuously striving." 

What is, specifically, "the dimension of life"?  How does the state "encourage and facilitate" it?  Give me an example, this is WAY too vague.

"Proper messaging and coordination are continual[ly] sought, identified, and disseminated."  Again, vague and without substance.  Give me an example of "proper messaging" vs "improper messaging."  Do you simply mean 'messaging'?  How, via a free press or the state or from the common man?  From whom is the messaging to originate and to whom is it to be directed.

You are living in a dream world, Fred.  Get your head out of the clouds, and get off your high horse and join the rest of us.  For goodness sakes, your hubris in uncanny.

I'm sorry Mr Archer, these are the life supplying and defining descriptions we can provide for now for the fledgling human territorial state in the continuing growth process. You're just being childishly prodigious, trying to dazzle.  A proper messaging procedure is my efforts of trying keep a adequate level of maturity in our discourses while you try to make a juvenile game out of it.

One more time at that last sentence in previous post, correction:
A proper messaging procedure is my efforts of trying to keep an adequate level of maturity in our discourses while you try to make a juvenile game out of it.  

Again, no details.  FYI, I took my own advice and asked ChatGPT to ask me some questions to determine my political ideology and general philosophy.  I got a very detailed report after answering the questions.  In summary, 

Your views align most closely with Classical Liberalism, Libertarian Constitutionalism, and Civic Republicanism with an emphasis on natural rights, decentralized governance, free markets, and personal responsibility. Your economic philosophy is sound money-oriented and anti-central banking, and you have a deep commitment to individual liberty, self-governance, and limited government intervention.

Additionally, your metaphysical perspective suggests a belief in a higher order to the universe, possibly a divine intelligence or God, and the idea that moral laws are self-enforcing through cause and effect ("as you sow, so shall you reap").

Then I submitted your post "The state is in a eternal challenge to reach a state of positive, productive order. The state is continuously striving to find the behavior that will encourage and facilitate the dimension of life. Proper messaging and coordination are continual sought, identified, and disseminated." and asked it to classify what ideology you were likely to hold. ;-) 

Fred's statement is quite abstract and somewhat vague, but based on the wording, I would classify his ideology as statist, technocratic, and potentially collectivist in nature. Here’s a breakdown of what his statement suggests and possible interpretations:

... suggests a belief in the state as a central force for societal progress.
... The phrase “eternal challenge” implies perpetual state-driven optimization, which aligns with technocratic governance—a belief that the state must constantly adjust policies to refine and perfect social organization.
... implies that the state should be involved in shaping behavior, possibly through policies, incentives, or social engineering.
... The use of “striving” suggests an ongoing, interventionist approach to governance.
... suggests a strong role for the state in information control, messaging, and propaganda.
... “Proper messaging” implies that the state must define and control narratives.
... “Coordination” suggests a top-down approach, where the state ensures that society aligns with a defined objective.
... Based on these interpretations, Fred’s views align with some form of statism, but the exact type depends on his other beliefs

[which could include] Technocracy, Soft Authoritarianism / Managerial Statism, Mild Collectivism, and Orwellian Newspeak.

I couldn't agree more! 

Mr. Archer, you and your ChatGPT are just not  morally supplied with a proper coordination to judge my expression or any one else's for that matter. You and ChatGPT are just a thorough mixture of immaturity, incompetence, and misrepresentation.

The Socialist offers something vastly original and unheard of before. The Socialist offers maturity, competence, and correct representation in every feature of our establishment. The Socialist will establish civilization in the authentic sense. 

As has already been clearly demonstrated, your ideology is neither original nor unheard of.  Neither do you make an argument, just assertions without substance or merit.  Your vague platitudes are illusory — and dare I say delusionary.  Where is your evidence?  You can't even define your 'socialism' beyond abstractions.  If you have been misrepresented, then do better at representing.  It is no surprise that you find yourself alone — even Jesus had disciples.  You will not establish anything, I'm sorry.

My statements are quite original. Of course I don't persist with childish argumentation.  Mr Archer, you live in a world where they take no verbal language seriously. "Don't let anyone tell you different, words and ideas mean something," pretty much the line from the movie Dead Poet Society. This line should be totally shocking, no one other than me is moved by them, but the more I listen to your words, I must conclude not all words are intended to mean anything.  My word are true from the heart.

Mr Archer, you're in some of fairy-tale land to address this post to me. You associating a whole host of fraud in regard to me.  You are just so similar to the day to day misrepresentation I have to deal all the time. The put the suggestion in his mind game where I go in to purchase something and the guy jumps in me until he is sure of my purchase and grabs the item before I do and claims he controls my mind. You are effectively performing the same juvenile strategy. You're nothing but a immature brat Mr Archer, who is in desperate need of growing the hell up.

If you won't accept artificial intelligence's word for it, try REAL intelligence. May the Truth make itself known to you and make you free.

I'm your friend Mr Archer, you have good day. I've got a Miri-ad of folks to deal with and planet that needs saving, I intend to do exactly that.