Ideas planted by the state and or a church (mosque/synogogue) fester all the way through your life until...you become a hamster on a wheel...reinvent yourself a free person. Restore the Republic

Right On Mary!

With the onslaught of so many policing agencies that are known and those that are unknown, coupled with a tax regime that has walking authority to do to a citizen whatever it wants, added to the fact that an American can now be yanked off the streets with no charges, no legal counsel and no right to face his accuser...I'd say we're there. The American State has officially given up on the idea that citizens are anything more than inventory to be milked like cattle and disposed of in whatever way the state decides...and it's all "legal".

True RBE...but drawing a line in the sand in defense of individual rights is, to me, a different thing.

Use fear, use intimidation, make examples of those who resist. Extortion.

Waffler, it is my hope that Americans in general don't take the defeatist attitude that you would have them take. It is also my hope that it will once again be Americans who break up the gang of international thieves. After all, Americans have a history of standing for justice (not sevitude) and throwing tyrannies into the sea...

Being a little "too" aware can, I suppose, drive you nuts! (Are those bats flying around in here again?) :)