I knew the late Norman Dodd personally. He was a highly educated, brilliant patriot. He personally related this incident (his conversation with Gaither) to me in 1985. If Mr. George wants to become informed, he should read the 3000-page transcript of the 1954 Reece and Cox Committee hearings(Congressional investigation of the tax-exempt foundations) which can be found at: http://www.americandeception.com Norman Dodd was Research Director for this Committee until the hearings were abruptly shut down due to powerful influences in government. The foundations subsequently scooped up all copies of testimony. Only recently did this one copy become available for purchase and inclusion on the above FREE website. Wake Up, America!