to Waffler, smith There is black associations for many things its not because they are needed its because they want them. there is also a black mcdonalds owners association, ask yourself for what is that needed? the black associations are nothing more than seperatist to bring attention to themselves. if we formed white associations we would be called racists.the quality and number of guns depends on the person or persons using them. you call people who own guns and ammo children,are the police,the military,the secret service that protect our country are they all children? or the person who chooses to protect his family and property from those who would harm them is he a child? its a known fact the reason no foriegn country dares to attack us on our own land is they would also face the armed citizens of this country that would step forward with their guns to protect our homeland. that sir is not the actions of a child as you have stated in your comment.