I think this is a typically crafty thing for a Mason to say. I think that if you look at the occult symbols of the Masonic aprons of Washington, they speak for themselves. It is said that Washington and Weishaupt were doubles. Masonry had been occult from the time that the Knights Templar landed in Scotland. The American and French Revolutions were naught but the English and French Masons working together with their "worshipful brothers" in the colonies to gain parity with the Monarchy in England and destroy it entirely in favor of mercantilism in France. I think that both the US and Israel are artificial Masonic constructs. Just look at the Supreme Court building of the State of Israel. That's what I think.