The people in Germany that called themselves socialists voted for the national democratic socialist workers party — a fascist wing of German socialism.  So, yes, fascism is a form of socialism.

But we get it, you love socialism.  I love liberty.  In my world you can live your life and I can live mine — how about you?  I haven't found a voluntary form of socialism yet.  

You have demonstrated this quote perfectly, Fred.

Socialism has bankrupted nations every time.  Socialism has yoked the labors of the People every time.  Socialism has appropriated the cultures and traditions of the People every time.  Socialism has indentured the People to an unpayable debt forever every time.  Socialism has reneged on its promises every time.

Never forget — every time.

Within the Statism spectrum, Communism can be found on the Left and Fascism on the Right.  Fascists are to the Right of Communists.  Antifa is a communist ideology, and anyone that opposes communism is considered a right-wing fascist.

But the left-right paradigm is still only a piece of the full spectrum.  The true 'liberal' is not even in the scale.  Where are the inalienable  Rights of Man?  Where is individual choice and personal responsibility?  Where is Freedom?  You won't find them in the left-right paradigm.

Once again, you cannot argue with a socialist because when confronted with the facts about socialism in practice they resort to saying 'well that is not real socialism, real socialism has never been achieved.' 

"The "real Socialist" Ghandi's commune, where even Ghandi took his turn cleaning the latrine."  -sigh- Voluntary communal living is a part of many cultures throughout time and can be spiritually uplifting.  Known as "seva" or "karma yoga" in India.  Hebrew kibbutz and Christian communes share the same values.  But none of these are 'socialism.'  Most are expressions of religious faith.  Early Americana was settled in a similar fashion of mutual cooperation.

Compulsory 'socialism' is subservience to the State — it is oppression.  Socialists vote for socialists, but socialism cannot protect them from dictatorship and totalitarianism.

'Real' socialism may not have ever been achieved but it's not due to a lack of trying.  The price of the failed promises of socialism is Liberty itself — and the lives of millions upon millions of common people.

And these are the so-called authorities to whom the common people have been conditioned to prostate themselves.

This is how socialism has gradually been adopted in America, step by step as others claim authority over the people.  This is why 'power corrupts.'

Given the state of the world today, is there any doubt that the powers-that-should-not-be are acting in concert to rule the world?

“When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.” — Declaration of Independence

The foundations of America should be taught to and understood by every American.  The Rights of Man are recognized as inherent and inalienable because man has not created himself.  We recognize that we are products of Nature beholden to the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God — whomever or whatever that may be, we don't claim to know, but it is not any human. 

Why is this here?  Because history is replete with examples of men in power claiming godhead status and the people either bend or die.  Monarchs claim to be God's chosen or even incarnate.  Remember what the American Revolution was all about!

Learn this.  Teach this.  Honor this.

I seriously doubt that.  This sounds like propaganda.

The ideological Left's sole purpose has been to make us do as they think — by any means necessary.  It's the new religion of the church of mob rule — authoritarianism by any other name.  The classic liberals defended freedom and mutual respect.  The Puritans fled religious persecution — the Left are the persecutors still today.

Funny how the atheistic liberals have become the new Puritans.

Wow.  Right on, as clear as day.  Know the enemy.  The Founders formed a more perfect union to protect against the insidious wiles of those that wish to rule the people.  The denial or ignorance of this reality is the tool of tyrants.  Socialism is just another form of rule that worships the command of people — while professing liberty, they forge new chains for the masses. For the socialists,  Freedom is a four-letter word

Hear, hear!!  Excellent response.

"No we shouldn't!" ... if only

Yikes!  That independent voice of creativity is supposed to be yours — and mine, and everybody's.

Every government is a parliament of whores.

Hard pass.

One man's Socialist dream is another man's Fascist nightmare.

Yes, Fred you are "dreaming."  ;-)  True socialism may not have ever been achieved, but it's not for a lack of trying — it has always failed in its promises and at tremendous cost to the people.  Socialism has been achieved, it's just not what its proponents bargained for.

Democratic socialism is a religion steeped in superstition and prejudice that worships collective power.  To make this system work, a private central bank creates money out of thin air and loans it at interest to the people — there is no other way money is created, and it is destroyed as soon as the 'loan' is paid back. 

Funnily enough, socialists call this 'capitalism' — but there is no capital, it's all paper promises to pay.  This is actually the "social credit" system being rolled out in China and soon other 'socialist' countries.  Socialism is the real game of Monopoly!

What's wrong with this?  It's literally vampirism — sucking the lifeblood out of the people to 'rent' tokens for trading their labors.  And governments and corporations have been filtering out anyone that does not share the collectivist mindset.  Wave after wave of leftists pouring into seats of power and influence to the point that children do not even know what being free and responsible is.  This is real Socialism, and true liberals know it.

Freedom is the real dream.  Freedom to create and fulfill my dreams.  Freedom to speak truthfully, to support and defend causes I hold dear.  Freedom to work and travel.  Freedom to hold unpopular opinions and express them.

In a world where individuals are allowed to live in harmony with natural law, the blessings of Liberty will be known to all.

I'll take Liberty and a republican form of government over the religion of Socialism any day — and that is what America is all about.  The sooner the rest of the world wakes up, the better for all.

In case you have missed it, the governments of the world have declared war on their people, sparking unrest, punishing dissent, implementing population reduction programs, one-party rule, and the criminalization of Liberty.  The powers-that-should-not-be are rolling right along with their plans to dominate the world's population into submission.  Global socialism is a global empire of oligarchs ruled by the 'lords' who print the money out of nothing.  This is war, and your submission is the goal.

Zeig heil...

This is common knowledge today.  Nothing to see here, folks.

As far as I can tell. Socialism is the 'appropriation' of all.  Everything 'good' is due to 'Socialism.'  'Socialism' recognizes Natural Law (no it doesn't).  Socialism protects people's rights (no it appropriates people's choices).  Socialists claim all men and women are 'produced' equal — who/what has produced people?  Fred's claims about Socialism are merely appropriated from Christianity and republicanism.  They deny 'gods' but hail Mother Nature. Socialism is a lie and a theft of individual power and liberty — it is servitude to the State.

Such is the intent of republican government.  Socialism is regulated life, 'new rules' from man, no recognition of Natural Law.  

Right on, J Carlton.

What price is Liberty?  Do you not understand that the difference between a republican form of government and socialism/communism/fascism/monarchy/dictatorship is your Liberty?  What happens to 'my body my choice?'  You have no choices without Liberty.  The solution to poverty is not the subjugation of a People to be ruled.  What responsibility do YOU have to help the poor — even yourself?