Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share via Email Print this Page [1-1] of 1Posts from JLee, Leeds UKJLee, Leeds UK 1 Reply JLee, Leeds UK 6/11/13 re: George Orwell quote The nearest to the rough men quote that is documented can be found here...In an essay on Rudyard Kipling, Orwell cited Kipling's phrase "making mock of uniforms that guard you while you sleep" (Kipling, Tommy), and further noted that Kipling's "grasp of function, of who protects whom, is very sound. He sees clearly that men can be highly civilized only while other men, inevitably less civilized, are there to guard and feed them." (1942)AlsoNotes on nationalism 1945 by George Orwell See near the bottom of the page.Pacifist. Those who abjure violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf.Hildergarde, shanty Great points.Enough said SaveOk2 Share on Facebook Tweet Email Print