spot on and I love the jibe implied in 'the sane' LOL

Is this about the ideal or what was made of it? Socialism as an idea is great. State socialism as it existed was as misanthropic as capitalism (which is not a system as such, is it). National socialism - what the Nazis had - again is not to be confused with Socialism. I reckon that Herbert was nothing but one of the rather common British upperclass that feared for their waning empire. Marx a sociopath? Wow.