Ditto Joe In every state a person has a right to defend themselves and you do not have to wait until a shot misses you.... A Department of Peace!!!??? Is there really someone on this board who thinks now is the time to sing "Kum bah yah" with Osama and his ilk? When watching someone being beheaded is not enough to convince someone that we are dealing with evil...well, they are not going to be convinced. And as always, there are those who get it..and who are putting their lives on the line so they can quibble over how many angels one puts on a pin head. Sad. Really sad. Thomas Paine said it: Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it.