The real quote is: "budget should exsisto pondera. Publicus debitum should redeo. superbia of persona should exsisto tempero, quod suffragium ut extrarius terra should exsisto velum lest Rome decoctum." - Cicero 55 B.C. Arguing over literal translation is only a diversion from arguing the real points (a well known tact from the liberals in this country). Libs always attack the messenger, and not the message!