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Posts from Tony, Victoria

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Tony, Victoria

To take this quote seriously, you have to understand its context. It mentions both Capitalism and God. Let's examine both of these concepts in the historical context. During the Industrial Revolution (before Lenin or any other of the more well-known "communists" were born), Marx and Engels observed the workhouses like that in Oliver Twist, the exorbitant wealth of the aristocracy, and the general squalor and misery that the commons had to endure. The people of the time were living in what we see today on Christian Children's Fund ads. This, a system without the benefits of modern government (free or subsidized health care, unemployment protection, and basic safety regulations) was a system that I'm sure even the most capitalistic mind today would want to at least reform. God had long been evoked by feudalists as their key to power. The same way some say that America is God's land (complete BS to me personally, but whatevs), feudalists said that God gave them a right to rule. This same argument was still being used by monarchists of the day and by the capitalists of England, where Marx and Engels lived when they wrote most of their works. Marx saw the idea of God as a tool of feudalists (opponents of the precious "America, fuck yeah!" attitude some of you hold dear, fyi) and capitalists to keep their place on top of a corrupt system. Marx and Engles wrote and died at least 30 years before the first Communists starting raising hell in Eastern Europe, so they are innocent of the deaths caused by Stalin and his ilk. Before Lenin, the tsar was very totalitarian, and the Communists could only use what they knew, which was totalitarianism. The Holdomor (massive Ukrainian famine killing 7 million people on direct orders from Moscow) was more a reflection of old Russian Imperial ideas than communist or socialist ideas. There, reply me up if you want to; I want to hear some good argument! tbasherizer at hotmail dot com

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