Waff, where do you come up with this idea that anyone is planning to "attack the government by force". Dan is saying that an armed populace can protect itself against a corrupt and power seeking government, As to your last line, the "government" is not the "Constitution", as you seem to suggest.

Waffler , can't you read ? This is not a quote by Clinton, it's a news item which appeared in the Washington Times. It says ,right at the top," The Washington Times Quote ".We know that the schools are bad in Arkansas but surely you can read plain English.

On second thought, Maybe Waff is just putting us all on. His diatribes are a bit funny, some comic relief perhaps since they can't be taken seriously.

Hey Max, maybe you need to talk to some Cubans that have escaped Castros prison known as Cuba. As usual Waffler spouts his nonsense. As to his second sentence of his first paragraph above,how on earth do you get that from the Harvey quote? Hey, maybe Waff is a mind reader.

He left out one group that will have all the guns they need, They are called "criminals".

Mr Feder said it exactly in one short sentence. Ahh gibberish, Waffler is thy name.

The vote on the 2nd ammendment,the D.C. handgun ban, was 5 to 4, which is very scary. It should have been 9 to 0 and we were lucky at that. Bush may have made a lot of mistakes, but his Supreme Court appointments were right on.

What "2nd half of it". I didn't realize that the quote had 2 parts, sounds great to me, "both halves:.

The right shall not be infringed , but the Libs keep trying.

As the man said when the church burned down, "Holy Smoke". Waffler, are you into that white lightning again? What on earth, pray tell, is "government by discussion"? Yes, our politicians do get together and discuss how they can hijack more of our freedoms, buy our votes, and tax us to death, so perhaps it is government by discussion. As Mark Twain said, " No Man's Life, Liberty, or Property is Safe When The Legislature is in Session".

Waffler, get someone to read this quote to you and think again. The quote says nothing about a militia. It says "A people Armed and Free", and that should be clear enough for even you to understand.

This quote should be read daily to the "Brady Bunch". Waffler, please describe a "healthy attitude"and tell me who on the side of the 2nd amendment are "sick". Your comment is essentially meaningless, as usual.

Well said Mike, Norwalk. No one has to take the blame for anything they do anymore, it's this "society" thing that causes all the trouble. Meybe Flip Wilson should have said "Society made me do it" instead of the "Devil".

Don't you just love the term :assault weapons". To a leftest, that term means almost any gun that you may own. Ask one of them to give you a definition of the term "assault weapons". and you'll likely get a blank stare.When it comes to banning assault weapons , almost any gun can be declared an assault weapon. Beware.

Steven, it sounds as though you and Waffler have been drinking the same kool aid.

Hunting on your land may be one thing, but before building on it, be sure and get that environmental impact study and pray that no endangered worm is found. And even though no rain has fallen on the property for 20 years, the EPA may declare your property to be a "wetland " and there goes the neighborhood.

Unfortunately, our kindly old congress buys votes by stealing from the producers and giving to the non-producers, it's called taxation. As a wise man once said, "robbing Peter to pay Paul, always sounds pretty good to Paul".

Our Congress forgot about the Constitution a long time ago.

For an example of socialism, look no farther than the "environmental movement". Want to improve your land? Get an environmental impact study and hope they don't find an "endangered" worm on it. Socialists are basically control freaks of which we have a plentiful supply here in the U.S.

Stealing from one to give to another is now done legally, it's called "taxes".

Ayn is right on the money.

Archer, right on target.

Waffler, once in a while you almost sound cogent , and then you come up with gibberish like the nonsense above.

Hitler would have been proud. I'm sure that he formed the "Hitler Youth" out of the warmth and love in his heart. When tyrants steal your property and your freedoms , it's always for the greater good.

There's always the rule of unintended consequences, such as when the US sends food to various countries, and in so doing depresses the market for the local farmers. Then there was the misguided thing called "Urban Renewal" which has virtually destroyed the Black family structure. Just two of many examples, but have faith, and remember the slogan,"I'm from the government and I'm here to help you".