“The corporate State considers that private enterprise in the sphere of production is the most effective and useful instrument in the interest of the nation. In view of the fact that private organisation of production is a function of national concern, the organiser of the enterprise is responsible to the State for the direction given to production.”

Are you sure this wasn't George Bush or Barrack Obama that said this? This is the same argument used by most all socialists today. "If something has an affect, good or bad, on another person or the nation as a whole, that activity should be regulated, taxed, or subsidized by the government." The idea is simply ridiculous that I should be legally obligated--and therefore worthy of being forced to comply--in matters concerning the "benefits" that I receive as a member of society. Let alone the fact that society and the state are two entirely different things. This idea is the very antithesis of liberty, and I give the smallest credit to Mussolini for at least realizing and admitting that his ideas were not pro-liberty.

More insight than is usually granted to Benito. It does cause some pause as we look at America today. Sorting out "isms" is never easy. Throughout history we find some alignment of forces is necessary to insure the success of a people, nation-state, empire, or whatever the political entity is called. Divine-right monarchy fell with the advent of the Reformation. Fascism was stopped when it tried to conquer the world by force. Communism lost out to capitalism allied with democracy. Strangely socialism is gathering force for yet another alliance with something/anything. Its basic premise, "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs," looks good on paper, but fails when the able refuse to support the lazy. We can only hope and pray that the current filrtation is not consumated.

Benny sounds so good and logical. His grammar and syntax can be read as polemic (prosyletising) or just as a truism. Throughtout history we can find times when artisans, craftsmen, and industries responded to and were held somewhat accoutable to the state be it a monarch, duke or earl. During WWII the Feds molded private enterprise to supply the needs of the war effort. Private enterprise, and capitalism are tools to fulfill the needs of people. They are not conceptions or constructs that are more sacred than people or the individual. If they step on or crush the people or the individual (as in child labor or negligent mining practices or criminally shoddy or dangerous products) the people or the individual in the form of the state should have something to say about it. If not in the form of the state in some other form that I know not of.

Ben, the Bushes, Clinton, the Obamunist just paraphrased so the parishioners of their dumbied down theocracy could understand the cannon and continued tyrannical take over (proselytizing and enforcement at the end of a gun)

Great quote. Central idea that drives the Obamanation.

Call it what you will, fascism, communism, socialism, Obamunism. In the end, it all comes down to pure democracy (mobocracy) that is the force behind the dictator-du-jour. "We have met the enemy and they is us..."

Well said, Ben. You can see that Waffler struggles with an idea that he absolutely believes in. Yes, Waffler, your philosophy and approach to life is fascist. Now you know.

Fascist and communist sometimes say good things. If I and the communists are agaisnt child labor and that therefore makes me a communist so be it.

Oh, Waffler, you know you are a fascist not because you are against child labor laws (which were unecessary in a free republic like America), you are a fascist because you believe that people are to be ruled by others -- and you think your views are the ones that all should follow. Your arguments differ little from that of a house slave or a Tory at the time of the American Revolution. You worship power, and if the rest of us don't like it, then we should move somewhere else where things are worse. A defeatist attitude, a cowardly attitude, and in fact the only way you can hold such an attitude is your self-righteous belief that we should pay you for your attention to how much taxes we should all be paying. You are a tax collector, a thief, and a fascist who would have all those who oppose your unconstitutional abuses rounded up and hanged. You are no American and in fact a traitor to your country. A coward and parasite.

You are funny Archer really funny. Sadly that is all that you are.

Waffler, you continue to group those who advocate freedom with conservatives when, in fact, your accusation holds no water. So-called conservatives are turning out to be worse than so-called liberals, but the fact remains that they are all part of the same statist ideology that you also espouse. That is, the idea that the state can and should be the solution to societal problems and that solutions to these problems can be brought about by force/coercion. The point is not whether one is against child labor or not---you miss the point ENTIRELY, as usual. The point is freedom. The point is that those who love freedom would not use the power of government to coerce another into doing something just because they feel it is "morally" right. The fact that you DO believe in this idea makes you a non-believer in freedom. You do not trust a person when he is free. You would rather bind him down by the coercive power of the state according to your own moral dictates. I must inform you however that this is not called freedom and no amount of you wanting it to be freedom will make it so. You do not have the authority to repeal natural law.