“What a curious phenomenon it is that you can get men to die for the liberty of the world who will not make the little sacrifice that is needed to free themselves from their own individual bondage.”

Fantastic! If only, if only – the world would not need heroes and the word liberty would be but a misty remembrance of yesterday..

Very provocative. Yes there are different types of liberty and bondage.

A person in debt is not free. A person that simply follows orders is not free. A person who does not take responsibility for him/herslf is not free. A person dependent upon benefits and emoluments from the state is not free. A person that must get permission to travel, marry, procreate (or just practice), protest, or defend oneself is not free. A person that treats lies as truth is bound to delusion. Liberation is a life-long process.

There can be only two economic systems; barter and slavery. God commanded a barter system: "Thou shal not steal." Our Constitution mandates a barter system of gold and silver coins, Art.1, Sec.10. The distinction between free men and slaves is whether or not they are paid for their labor. The sole function of Lincoln's unconstitutional legal tender acts was/is to get labor without payment. Lincoln's contemporary, Horace Greeley said that Lincoln's "iniquitous money system" is "no less cruel than the old system of chatel slavery." To learn of the trickery and treachery used to gain acceptance of Lincoln's "greenbacks"

Excellent comments today; and, WOW, this quote so very accurately describes the U.S. today. A very terse example of bondage today includes compelled compliance, license, theft of the noble laborer's fruits, corrupt courts, hindered voting (most recently Ron Paul in Texas), forced charity - ID - insurance, etc.

Lincoln was clearly the 2nd best leader we have ever had.

With his unconstitutional legal tender acts, Lincoln made every war since his time possible by permitting government to take everything sans payment for anything. His contemporary, Horace Greeley said Lincolns "Inequitous money system was no kless cruel than the ols system of chatel slavery."---many had negative views of "honest" Abe.

So true, The many Liberties afforded us in this once Free Republican nation, granted to the individual and as greatly so the individual States, have been swept under the rug of socialism. The many shades of liberty are specific in meaning and source. Necessity is a yoke of life and need no other burden laid upon it through oppression. Our Liberties come from the Creator of heaven and earth. Lincoln was a pawn, not a king, they are much harder to take in the game of chess. The powers behind the line of battle are rarely seen, much less heard, but only through a spokesman. My sympathies also lay entirely with the Confederacy, for the defense of States Rights against a centralized government that by ALL historical precedent, would inevitably turn tyrannical, these sentiments, I echo from the words of Lord Acton who lived during the time of the Civil War. His letter to Gen Robert E. Lee summed it up, " I morn for the stake which was lost at Richmond more deeply than I rejoice over that which was saved at Waterloo" Adding that he " deemed that the Confederacy was fighting battles for our Liberty, our progress and our civilization." We have become a ( polluted ) Sanctuary of the once granted Liberties under our Constitution and Declaration of Independence. Torn down by the mischief framed in unjust laws Perpetrated by a centralized government. Now it is our right to throw off such and restore a new guard, one who will restore the rights of the individual sovereign and their collective state. Holding the Hybrid Republic form of government paramount. Liberty from bondage and tax, Liberty of manumission from slavery and Liberty to the presence of God with the ability to say so. This knowledge needs to be taught and exalted in all aspects of life as we seek our happiness and offering to others of the same.