When you consider that, the 10 planks of the communist manifesto have already been implemented by one degree or another; and, when you consider the implementation of enslaving compelled compliance, victimless crimes, government licenses, larceny with impunity (2nd plank of the communist manifesto, funny money, government confiscations, etc.) and non-recognition of perfected allodium, inalienable rights and liberty at nature's law — the quote takes on a great accuracy.

We hold this truth to be self evident — historically proven over, and over and over again. In context; “And ye were now turned, and had done right in my sight, in proclaiming liberty every man to his neighbor; and ye had made a covenant before me in the house which is called by my name. Therefore thus saith the Lord; Ye have not hearkened unto me, in proclaiming liberty, everyone to his brother, and every man to his neighbor; ⋯” (Jeremiah 34:15, 17).  Reading on, the results will be the sam.

Communists are proving once again they never sleep with all the political success they are having lately. The socialist religion (communism, fascism, etc.) lives the concept that a lie told often enough becomes the truth.

Marx's here quote depicted well his demonic endeavors. His distain for his minister father was a great motivating factor in his religion's destructive path.

Chris, I've read the communist manifesto. Marx's god complex (maybe your moral concept?) was absolutely opposed to nature's law with its freedom / liberty, inalienable rights, prosperity, and all that is noble with the species man.

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Robert, I smile; your obvious religiously preferred form of socialism is communism (education in the name of the statist theocracy / the ecclesiastical State). Communists have always hated that form of socialism that administers its affairs through corporatism (fascism). As I've mentioned, I set up a couple of Montessori schools under the format of a trust. I was wondering, how does that fit into your religious dogma / theocratic structuring? As a Christian, I rejected proselyting forms of atheistic socialism as an absolute. I regularly invited experts from various religions (Atheists, Buddhists, Christians {from varying faiths} Hindu, Humanists, Islam, Judaism, lawyers {legal philosophies through a religious lens}, New Agers, Sikhism, Socialists, Taoists, etc.) to explain the doctrine / why / etc. of their sect. Those schools also taught what the law of nature and of nature's god was, what a republican form of government was and how religion was different than that.

Very, VERY accurate — short and to the point.

Dr. LaMar, socialism is: any of various economic, religious and political theories, philosophies or movements outside nature’s law advocating collective or governmental / religious ownership and administration of property (real / chattel / sensorial beings, etc.) along with the means of production and distribution of goods. Socialism has multiple administrative forms; by example: communism is the collective or government owning and administering through its singular self while, fascism uses extensions of the State (legal persons) to assist in its ownership and administration over all that the collective or government owns. Welfarism, in and of itself, along with complacency are theocratic extensions and results of socialism’s many forms.

Democratic and Republican constituencies are just like a herd of cows with different diets.

David, supporting the disabled, the orphans, and the elderly are religious endeavors; NOT a government of nature's law.

In an ultimate measurement of man's, temporal material is finite with each person requiring some of it for their own subsistence. Man's inhumanity to man does starve and otherwise destroy life. That has absolutely nothing to do with the mega-wealthy retaining property. Your version of "capitalism" is not compatible with anything outside Marx's phrase coining. Your Old Testament gleaning of the fields example only works in a society that values self preservation through work. Rand's reference to redistribution of wealth does not relate to your gleaning example either.

Sillik, one more thing 😁. Even if you don't acknowledge Eternity's King, you can't legitimately or in reality deny HIs/the "laws of nature and of nature's God" (Declaration of Independence) — (a domain of absolutes (biology, chemistry, physics / science, fiscal / economics, gravity, math, magnetics, life, liberty, rights, etc). Your socialist religion does not / can not supersede law's reality.

Sillik, WHAT ? ? ? 🤪 I shake my lowered head at some religion's pervasive ignorance. First, what idea does a socialist have right?

Socialism is: any of various economic, religious and political theories, philosophies or movements outside nature’s law advocating collective or governmental / religious ownership and administration of property (real / chattel / sensorial beings, etc.) along with the means of production and distribution of goods. Those trying to improve society by way of socialism have uniquely, through every attempt only caused pain, poverty, hate, violence and otherwise destruction. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

We the people of the de jure States united are NOT the government. We the people are individual sovereign heirs to Eternity's King. As individual sovereigns united, we hire servants to administer within a separate government of law (not men). "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union" (Preamble to the Constitution) uses a legally accurate term: "form". Form, defined legally, is an inanimate outward appearance distinguished from an otherwise substantive matter. Here, "law" is a measurable distinguishment with an extra created image (form). "Perfect Union" is a reference to a lawful relationship while "form" is an organizing extension of that law. The de jure republic at nature's law is a government of law, not men.

Simon, there are some accuracies in you otherwise overall false assertions. The U.S.A.'s fiscal loses can be directly tied to socialistic implementations, theocratic enactment and other unconstitutional activities. Canada's fiscal socialism (keep spending until you run out of other's money) isn't looking well for keeping the nation united.

The "A" from Reston, why the thumb down? Does a republic at law conflict with your socialist religious dogma? I was sufficiently poor at one point in my life that I could not even supply a vehicle for my family to sleep in. I got over that without ANY government handouts (only government impedance). I am now retired with all my children doing well with families of their own.

Further, the terms "law maker" and Lincoln's use of "we the people" are false misdirections to deceive even the very elect. Corporeal man is incapable of making law. Temporal heirs to Eternity's King are individually sovereign(s) with unique abilities to create rules (not law) of conduct (rules to administer laws that already naturally exist). The de jure States united was to be structured legal entities (republics — see Article IV, Section 4, U.S. Constitution) at nature's law (Declaration of independence) not men. The Constitution's 9th and 10th Amendments were to assure that concept as well limiting the subject matter's scope at which the Constitution's interpretation could expand. Madison's here quote is just another testimony to that effect / fact

Not quite sure how to rate this. Though Baldwin finally discovered the enslaving results of all socialism's administrative forms (communism, fascism, etc.), I think it was his original influence in the ACLU that allowed the extremes of good and bad.

Robert, it is obvious here your version of an educated reality and love differs greatly in a broader scope: your religious dogma & information vs. truth; AND, your emotionally sensorial perceptions vs. nature’s actual love. Can you be a bit more specific as to your’s and Marx’s definition of a die-hard capitalist. Marx’s coins “capitalism” varies greatly from an original “capital” and any extension thereof. Capitalism in fact, an action associated with “real” / non-socialist capital (a tangible medium of exchange - barter, gold & silver coin, etc.), I’m pretty sure your understanding of the subject matter would be far different from a libertarian’s (those who promote liberty) or other realist’s. The terms you use (saving grace, compassionate and empathetic; even philosophical rhetoric in context) are all religious feel good religious word salad in support of a statist theocracy, not a lawful state of affairs. How are the main socialist programs in America for the military; and, how is capitalism in America gradually strangling it’s own survival? Your communist religion’s misdirection concerning corporate conglomerates is another misnomer. Since centrally socialist theocracy(s) has/have eliminated all competition to its/their corporations - i.e., legal off-spring - corporations (corporatism / fascism/ administered socialism), there are no State permitted Corporation Soles, Irrevocable Trusts that can publicly sell UBIs, etc. The theocracy’s larger legal persons (corporations) are somewhat protected in the communist / fascist blend from the second plank of the communist manifesto (taxes).

Robert, the primary reason for a poverty increase, health care decline and wage disparity in America is due to atheistic Socialists’ success in a temporary transference from the Eternal King’s love and truth to atheistic lies (religious expansion, dogma and control, such being antithetical to nature’s law). Excessively increased incarcerations can only be explained by a direct corollary - the more control the socialist theocracy enacts, the greater the number of criminals (lawfully defined, a crime is not the breaking of a law but rather, an infraction of public rules). Robert, I do agree with you, the greater the acceptance of socialist theocracy dogma by canon, the greater social fabrication’s disintegration. Though Mises’ philosophy is antiquated in face of the currently occupying statist theocracy infesting this land, it remains no less the truth.

A slightly different understanding of capitalism from Marx’s coined term would be: an economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately owned and development occurs though an excess accumulation for reinvestment in a laissez-faire atmosphere. Marxism has somewhat the same meaning except there is NO private, tangible medium of exchange, perfected allodium or excess.

Anonymous, WHAT? ? ? 🤪 Ignorance or religions false / non-nature’s laws’ recognitions do not do well in explaining the real world. Please define your concept of capitalism. Capitalism, in its most simple form is nothing more than "capital" invested or otherwise used. After all living expenses were discharged, capital was an excess tangible exchange of value. (barter, gold / silver coin, of physical intrinsic value, etc.). By example: a wood cutter sold the fruits of his labors and paid his mortgage, essentials of life (food, clothing, etc.), family's expenses, etc. Capital was the tangible value left over after all life’s expenditures. Capitalism was the freely invested expenditure of that capital for future enrichment, wealth or charity. The capitalist may engage a second woodsman to chop wood, paying him a contracted specie of value. If there were an excess to the contractor's labors, the capitalist would then have extra capital to invest. If the contractor cost the original woodsman more than the contracted sum, he may become bankrupt.

In a pure capitalist system, the medium of exchange is tangible. Marx’s use of a coined and spurious counterfeit capitalism is today accurately identified as “crony capitalism”. Also, your illustration of corporations is an extension of Mussolini’s administration of corporatism / socialism. A legal reality is, all corporations today are legal persons extended from the State (State entities, socialist subcomponents). Those religious purists that adhere to a more Marxist / communist application of socialism lump a hated for fascism (Mussolini’s coined term for his socialism’s version) with all other lifestyles, economies, etc. not harmonious to their ecumenical dogma. Zealot communists follow one of their carnal god’s dogma: “a lie told often enough becomes the truth” (Lenin), make up new meanings for words and rationalize debt based economies such as the current FRN and world bank systems (as is antithetical to capitalism). Today’s crony capitalism, in a debt system, through a “legal positivism’s” philosophical form (outside nature’s law, Declaration of Independence) maintains an accounting arrangement (-;Sillik will like that reference;-) that states anything that has a profit is a form of capitalism. There are other differences between capitalism and other economic systems but this will due for this discussion.

Socialism is: any of various economic, religious and political theories, philosophies or movements outside nature’s law advocating collective or governmental / religious ownership and administration of property (real / chattel / sensorial beings, etc.) along with the means of production and distribution of goods. Capitalism is an economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately owned and development occurs through the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market. Crony capitalism is just another socialist tool to enslave the Eternal King’s noble heirs.

What is the standard that defines "good" and "bad" people in an atmosphere of the occupying statist theocracy currently infesting this land? Is the defining measurement based on the eternal "laws of nature and of nature's God", or; is such understanding enforced by/from carnal god's demonic religious ideologies?

What is understood by the "object of loyalty". Is it simple submission? "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable," (Declaration of Independence). It is a very great mistake to imagine popular actions to be approved by a singular noble sovereign and/or nature's law.

Rick, the currently occupying statist theocracy infesting this land is as corrupt and all powerful as any king in history. The de jure States united lost its Constitution long ago. There is NO "law of nature" (Declaration of Independence) recognized in any of the occupying statist theocracy's courts of today. The vast majority of attorneys and judges genuflect at corporeal god's legislation and carnal stare decisis.

I really like the concept of opposites. Depending on "sin's" definition, the abstraction or the impression carries a very broad application. Sin, in and of itself, may be as narrow as a religious canon infraction; or, sin may be a most broadly interpretive comprehension of law breaking in general. Within a setting of nature's law, sin would include such unlawful activities as compelled compliance, government licensing, victimless crimes, larceny with impunity (2nd plank of the communist manifesto, funny money / debt notes, governmental wealth seizures, socialism, etc.), socialism and non-recognition / enforcement of inalienable rights and inate freedom / liberty

Not shooting the messenger, good observation.

Sillik, you do NOT seek, only the most correct behavior for anything - you only rationalize depraved enslavement. We are all NOT of social element — WE ARE all of individual elements. Can you please draw or take a picture (maybe through a microscope) of a social element (-; you know, something scientific;-). Is it your godhood position (or another god) that will place each person within humankind's most productive precise order?