Unaware of the context he said this I'll take the liberty of inserting "our fort," our Constitutional form of government, for the words "your fort" to make my point.

Ruthless is the key word here. The wolf in sheeps clothing ruthlessly tearing at the natural rights of the individual protected by our Constitution so to sate his appetite for power and control over the sheep.

Government charities or, social programs, are created by taking advantage of an individuals sense of compassion for others. This may sound good in theory, but the reality is governments will always at some point, because taxpayers don't know where their money is going, use it for its own purposes once good government (Constitutional Republic) is infiltrated by men with their own agenda and the money, rather than help the needy, is used to amass power not granted to it to the detriment of the individuals that truly, to begin with, only wanted to do right by those who suffer. Our Constitution was created to stop the infiltrator with an agenda not from getting into government as our founders were well aware of wolves in sheeps clothing that would fool the people and get elected. It was to stop their unconstitutional agendas from ever having an effect on Americans with checks and balances with the most important check now lost to us, the nullification of unconstitutional law by the jury, thus exposing by the nullification, the agenda of the legislature in office. Now, the citizens had an understanding passed on by the nullifications who should or should not be in office because they are or aren't living up to their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic and could vote accordingly to rid our administration of any individual pushing an agenda detrimental to the freedom of all individual Americans. WITHOUT VIOLENCE or, in a civilized way.

Very well said Mike! Both posts, but especially the 2nd.

Not familiar with the man himself, on the surface it seems to be a pretty stupid question.

Ken, taking the last line of your post "We get what we deserve...." and my last post above, I'll go as far as to say that we the people are nearly as corrupt as our world and National "leaders" are. Thank Goodness there are some who are not as corrupt as they are expected to be or hoped to be. The whole system is based on corruption and lies produced by the corrupt. In order to continue they have to count on the corruption of the majority to stay in power. In that sense, at least the majority is as nearly corrupt as those who corrupted our form of constitutional government.

Ken, addiction is a better way to put than trapped, and now that I see it that way it's easier to understand the trapped part. The dealer denies anyone who goes through rehabilitation (re-education) to refuse the drug and begin a new life. Raising taxes a lot and then cutting them a little is where is playing on the cravings of the addict thus the puppet dance. Thanks Ken, your input is appreciated.

llbplayball- But then Robin would be stealing from himself, which explains why he and the poor should have kept it in their pockets to begin with. Then there would be no need to steal at all. The government started the Robin Hood Syndrome by stealing in the first place.

Well made point Ken. Something to ponder. Are we "on the take" because we choose to be or because we have been duped and trapped into that position?

The blame for every corruption of government is on every American who allowed, allows, and continues to allow the corruption to go on.

Waffler, highways are one thing, handing over the wealth of our labor to international banking or any special interests is quite another thing altogether. Enjoy your make believe world of good government. I'm sure it gives you great comfort. Yes, the fence, nothing like closing the barn door after there are so many illegals in the country they can't possibly be deported. Good thinking government. My faith grows stronger every day that they are the hope of mankind. LoL

As ususal Waffler, whoosh, right over your head.

By virtue of exchange...what virtue is he addressing here? The virtue here is that no one involved in the exchange goes away unhappy and for every transaction the value of both individuals labor is not lost in the exchange DURING the transaction when one pays the other with money. for example, If the prosperous man in this case is a business man, payer, the valueable product he produces is the result of his labor. The employee, payee, exerts his valueable labor (time and energy) for a share of the profit made by the business. If money was not used, a barter exchange would occur. The VALUE of the payee's time and effort EXCHANGED for the VALUE of the payer's product. No money, payee's product and property (labor), for the payers product and property. When money enters in, the above equation still holds true so the money given to the payee MUST somehow represent the value of the payers property or the payee loses. This is an example, less the losing part, of honest free enterprise in action. The product of the payer has intrinsic VALUE and so common sense that WHATEVER the payer PUTS into the payee's hands MUST have intinsic VALUE as well. One can argue against the gold/silver standard until they're blue in the face but in order to do so this natural honest process of value absolutely has to be ignored because one can't argue the common sense or self evident truth of it. FRN's or diigital transfers have no REAL value as they are but paper and ink. Only the value people THINK it has when using it is what gives it any value at all. But what happens when the purchasing power of paper fluctuates erratically? One day you can buy a loaf of bread fo a dollar but the next week you need 2 for the same loaf. Hey, if things are booming you might get 2 for 1 and that's when confidence rises in the paper. Now that the only thing our money represents is our debt to the monied powers and their corporate control, what we can or can't buy and sell is at the mercy of those who "ok" the loan or not. Right now our government can't survive without debt, our corporations can't survive without it so the question remains whether you the individual can or cannot, need or need not, WANT or WANT NOT, to surive without it. To an extent we have no choice at THIS time because of the debt money but, helping the system by living beyond our means with debt makes hypocrites out of people. If the system is to be fought and beaten lawfully it has to be fought on all and every front that can be discovered even if it means sacrifice. But hey, if one is ok with the idea the system sacrifices a part of one's life every second of every day for all ones' life to the fire that fuels its engines, giving in just a little bit might be ok for one. That, is one's choice as it should be. In this day though, it is essential to make well informed choices as information and truth are being wihheld from us and new truths are emerging every day. Use this knowledge and knowledge of your enemy, the system, to control as much of your life as possible, free from the system. Don't stop trying to use constitutional methods and word of mouth etc to bring the system under control, but the system has weak points too that should be searched out and taken advantage of to weaken it on both ends toward making it manageable again. Keep in mind this is exactly what the system does to one every day. Seek the weak points and take advantage of them. Disclaimer; I am in no way advising that any action should be taken that breaks the law. Now to me, that's a paradoxical statement, but, must be said.

Great post Nan. You said; "Please, someone...anyone, tell me what qualifies a politician to tell us what's best for us." LoL, The same thing that qualifies me to tell you what's best for you! Hey, if your mate for life doesn't know what's best for you ALL the time, what are the odds that some stranger you voted for has a clue to what is best for you anytime? Rhetorical questions, I just wanted to add to what you said. Brilliant!

Now we know why there are 10,000's of laws across America.

Yes Mike and that was of the time when public funds were spent, everybody in the village, town, county, city, State, or country was to benefit from it depending on where th funding came from. Not special interests or a select few in society. Would have been great to live in those days and would be even greater if we could backtrack and reestablish the rule of natural law rights of men protected by our Constitution as the Law of the Land as it once was. When I leave this life that's what I would like to leave for my children. Not this national den of iniquity, God help me.

J. Carlton, well said. Is there any doubt that military fascism is the next step if resistance rises? Rhetorical question as it is just asked to stir the spirit of freedom of anyone who might get the message. Again, you nailed it.

M. Brown, I admire your courage to DO something but I have misgivings that raises many questions in my mind. When I have misgivings that raise questions I answer those questions prior to action. The very first connection I made that made me stop and question was Fox news and it's mass media corporate connections to the system that enslaves. My belief is that Fox, Rush Limbaugh and any mass media tool (including the internet) that allows present government criticism air time is there specifically to guage the nations growing hostility to (what they are fully anticipating) their growing power over nations and men. To be frank, my first suspicion about your site was it is an easy way to collect names and, pictures no less, of dissenters who are potential enemies of the coming world State just in case people don't willingly accept it when it is entirely forced on us. Whatever your decision to DO something, keep in mind they have no intention, NONE WHATSOEVER, of giving up what they have created. There will never be a "compromise" with these people. They are psychopaths with an agenda and if the evidence of the wars they create to apply their agenda with NO REGARD to human life isn't enough to prove their psychopathic nature I don't know what other evidence, and there is more, that will convince people any better.

Ha, and who will stand and rebuke to the faces of those who control the corporate system of slavery for their own benefit? Who will challenge them on their authority? America is a land of cowards today and thier bravery is stymied by fear.

People who want a large, powerful, centralized government are essentially sadists. The more we suffer, the greater pleasure they feel. Don't forget, they are the ones who benefit by our servitude.

Roosevelt's "reign" marked the downfall of Constitutional principle to the present day. He did more damage to these principles than any other president since Lincoln chose to abrogate the power preserved by the individual States to sucede over disagreement. Ironic that Lincoln freed the slaves and FDR made slaves out of all of us, regardless of race or religion.

It isn't the consumer that determines what should be produced to any great extent today. What one needs, wants, the quality and quantity, are determined by industry itself and those that control corporate industry and shuffle it around the world depending where they want it placed for whatever purpose.

Free enterprise doesn't exist anymore unless it's children with a lemonade stand. Incorporation by grant of government and private business permits and regulations that follow suffocate free enterprise.

M. Brown and F.M. Sweeney. Just a suggestion. Turn your sadness and depression to controlled anger at the heartlesssness and lack of compassion these people really have despite their guise as sheep and do something about it. If one truly cares, happiness comes from doing the right thing despite the odds. Don't forget, David did the right thing and took out Goliath successfully. Like I said, only a suggestion based solely on your posts as I don't claim to know either of you personally and don't pretend to imply either of you do nothing. I do get concerned when I see people who see the big picture as the two of you seem to and defeatest words are used. It makes me think these people think the war is over and it's sad or depressing and we lost. Again, sorry if none of this applys to you but I do see it often enough to think it's important to keep defeatest attitudes to a minimun. They are actually morale breakers and dampen all around enthusiasm. They hurt, not help. That's why I must say something about it especially when it seems to be goodhearted people making the statement and then stray off with helplessness and confusion their guides, Nice having contact with you.

Jim, to describe evil as necessary is to admit what history proves, we, mankind in general, do not learn from our mistakes. The criminal doesn't care to learn what's good or evil because the wants of his selfish nature are all that matter to him and the unselfish nature of good people tend to forgive and forget the wrongs done against them. Evil, or infringements, errors, mistakes etc against the natural rights of man are the means we are supposed to use to learn not only the difference between right and wrong, but also to learn to DO right whether our personal sefishness might urge a different action or not. This is where man goes astray and the needs and wants of the material world lead to more selfishness to greed and at the least the general acceptance of infringements on rights as proper and to the extreme the idea that enforcible law violations (serious infringements) are proper. The second is caused by the first and errors and mistakes (evils) abound throughout society. Just when past societies reach a point of ridding evil from their midst and keep it at bay, the apathy that new found wealth in the material leads to and the general sense of forgive and forget causes the people to forget the lessons learned from the past and by so doing open the door for ever chomping at the bit evil to get the upper hand once again. Does this make evil necessary as it is impossible for man to govern himself and he must be kept in line by government? No, our forefathers proved it can be done, but, the lesson we've failed to learn over and over again is not to ever be too forgiving of, and never ever forget about, evil and its destructive power on mankind and its ever present nature to do harm to anyone and everyone, anytime and any place. This is a truth man needs to learn....again. I find it hard to believe that evil is necessary if lessons are learned and if necessary, only to remind us of our personal errors that allow evil to thrive. One of our forefathers said that the Constitution should be the one document every citizen should carry in his pocket and know why it was important to/for him to do so, or something to that effect. I believe self government is not a necessary evil but a necessary good that man just has to learn how to operate properly. It's important to remember our administrative form of government was NOT to govern us but to administer the logistics of protecting our natural right to govern ourselves in respect of anothers right to do the same. We have difinitely strayed a long way from there.