“While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. ” (2 Peter 2:19) “Therefore thus saith the Lord; Ye have not hearkened unto me, in proclaiming liberty, every one to his brother, and every man to his neighbour:” (Jeremiah 34:17)

Amen, Amen and Amen. For those who have eyes to see and ears to hear — we hold this truth to be self evident. An extremely accurate cognition in the obvious. That I could rate this countless times with innumerable stars.

Sillik, — your demented religion (with its nonsensical / circular word salad - dogma) has nothing to do with science, law, order or reality. Your absolute inability to constructively explain through scientific methodology or nature's lawful functionality only leaves your smattering of non-related phrases and abstract concepts left to wonder in an ethos of mentally ill dribble. Your dictionary for mentally ill children still does not come close to the adults historically accepted (by academia and law) dictionary defined terms. You can keep trying to change the subject by throwing in more meaningless word salad but, it still doesn't help your idiotic / misdirection propaganda.

An astute ascertainment in the obvious ! ! !  The law of nature and of nature's God is outside man's ability to create, control or enforce.

Liberty is NEITHER a "privilege to be conferred" or, "a habit to be acquired." Liberty is an inalienable right and exists as a faculty of birth at nature's law.

     Sillik, since this has been made clear to you previously, your lying dribble can only be interpreted as advanced propaganda after one of your previous socialist god’s admonitions: “tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth.” (Vladimir Lenin) Your reference to Carl Sagan was a VERY weak attempt at misdirection, - your lie is too easily shown for what it is.

     Socialism is: “any of various economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods - a system of society or group living in which there is no private property; a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state.” (Merriam Webster)

     “⋯ Socialism is a religion. - To be a socialist is to submit the I to the thou; socialism is sacrificing the individual to the whole.” (Joseph Gobbles) Socialism is: any of various economic, religious and political theories, philosophies or movements outside nature’s law advocating collective or governmental / religious ownership and administration of property (real / chattel / sensorial beings, etc.) along with the means of production and distribution of goods.

     “An economic and social theory (not law) that seeks to maximize wealth and opportunity for all people through public ownership and control of industries and social services.” (West’s Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2) A Socialist is: (Noun) An advocate of socialism; (Adj) Of, promoting, or practicing socialism.” (American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition)

     “Any theory or system of social organization which would abolish, entirely or in great part, the individual effort and competition on which modern society rests, and substitute for it co-operative action, would introduce a more perfect and equal distribution of the products of labor, and would make land and capital, as the instruments and means of production, the joint possession of the members of the community.” (Black’s Law Dictionary)

Your dictionary for mentally ill children doesn't play well when truth and facts on the subject are presented.

Sillik, you are an avowed socialist. The very premise of what you profess is antithetical to nature's law and its elements (individual sovereignty, inalienable rights, liberty, love and truth). Please define "laws of humanity" without using your dictionary for mentally ill children — it being diametrically opposed to the adults accepted academic and legal dictionaries. Also, please use scientific methodology to explain your hypothesis — NOT using your god syndrome's circular word salad.

Freedom, liberty and inalienable rights are elements of individual sovereignty at the law of nature and of nature's God. Those that commit unlawful acts, such as denying freedom to others, exist outside / contrary to freedom's domain of expression.

     Within the “law of nature and of nature’s God” (Declaration of Independence) the de jure constitutional law recognizes the status of an already existing body of law that is a tangible’s applied static measurement within a domain of absolutes (biology, chemistry, physics / science, fiscal / economics, gravity, math, magnetics, life, liberty, rights, etc.) Regulating such law for the enhancement of liberty and rights is done through “rules of order”. The terms law maker and law enforcement do not exist within nature’s law

     A crime is; “an offense against the state that is punishable.” (Collins Dictionary of Law) “A crime is an offense against a public law.” (Bouvier’s Law Dictionary) Crimes (criminal activity) are unique to corporeal application of carnal man’s ideologies and philosophies; by example: “maritime jurisdictions”, “legal positivism”, legal realism, etc. “Crime” does not relate to the breaking of a law (murder, theft, destruction of property, etc.) but rather, a breach of carnal man’s philosophical edicts; i.e., godly mandates. By definition, crime is the breach of an oligarchal (1 to ⋯) totalitarian’s communal dictate, consuming all herd cogs within its realm of influence; “an offense against the state” - NOT a breach of law or an offense - one individual against another individual and/or property.

     “an offense against public law” - public here references the communal herd, NOT a sovereign’s breach of law. At Constitutional law / nature’s law, the public can NOT create law (especially to eliminate or limit the inalienable rights of the noble sovereign). At times, man's applied philosophical edicts image law breaking 'BUT' ! ! !, being a facsimile (crime) is NOT the same as the real thing (law). One is man's control, the other is nature’s defined expression (law). Crimes, such as: non-observance of/to compelled compliance, negating any genuflecting to victimless crimes, acting without government license {commerce, marriage, certain property ownership are all crimes, only allowed without prosecution if a government license is obtained} and non-collaboration with larceny {2nd plank of the communist manifesto, funny money, etc.} do NOT constitute the breaking of nature's laws.

We hold this truth to be self evident. Defining the terms such as, "morality" and "faith" give very different perspectives on de Tocqueville's snippet or morsel. De Tocqueville's Christian bases would include "morality" as being a perceived character or virtue of obeying the law of nature or of nature's God's attributes and reality (inalienable rights, liberty, etc.). Morality in all forms of corporeal man's philosophies, ideologies and life styles outside nature's law can NOT comprehend the meaning of the quote. Logan above said it very well — when morality is legislated, freedom is lost. Faith here also, has a unique understanding being derived from ancient Hebrew / Christian use. Faith from current use would be an equivalent to belief. Here, "faith" would have a biblical understanding far beyond mere belief (for example: Hebrews 11:1, Matthew 17:20, etc.) Faith here is a "true" and tangible expression of the being ("the truth shall make you free" John 8:32).

Sillik, please supply the currently accepted academic and lawful definitions of “community”, “responsible behavior”, and “freedom” that you are using here. Do NOT use your dictionary for mentally ill children that conflicts with the adults currently accepted academic and lawful definitions. Also, please supply an address to said abstract “community” (it differing so greatly from an irresponsibly behaved community) so that I may subpoena your specifically referenced entity - “community”. Further, please supply the law and science (from a constitutionally based nature’s law, comprehensively detailed through scientific methodology, NOT ! from your god syndrome based theological dogma using circular word salad) AND; the legal nexus how, what, where and when individual freedom increases to a superior president in the magical conveyance to a group of individuals.

Accurate concepts, mixed with misdirection half-truths, mixed with inaccurate observations and in whole, a word salad that contradicts itself.

Waffler, a caveat to your shallow observation and incorrect assertion. In a "republican form of government" (Article IV Section 4 U.S. Constitution), "order" that is based in/on "the laws of nature and of nature's God" (1st paragraph of the Declaration of Independence) can NOT enforce law (can one enforce gravity, fiscal law, eternal truth, science, etc.?). The answer is an emphatic NO ! ! !  Law enforcement and law making / makers are oxymorons (diametrically opposed to) in a republic based on law of nature's individual sovereignty, inalienable rights, and liberty. By example; each and every one has a right and free to move from point "A" to point "B" or vise versa (say from New York to Boston and back again). A rule of "order" would state that everyone would either travel on the right or the left to accomplish their freedom of movement. If traveling on the right or the left were law — everyone in either the U.K. or the U.S.A. would be dead. Government enforcement of taxes is a usurpation of a god state operating under philosophies of men such as - "legal positivism", "maritime rule" on land of woke theology — etc.

In the scope of which it was given, It is very accurate. Considering the whole — not so much. What is McCarthy's measure of efficient / inefficiency? I can think of several greater threats to liberty (such as, the occupying statist theocracy infesting this land with its socialism and otherwise woke theology).

Sillik, WHAT ? ? ? Your circular word salad is once again incomprehensible nonsense wrapped in aimless babble. Have you added many of the words you've used here in your dictionary for mentally ill children (that dictionary that differs so greatly from all other dictionaries used by adults in the real world)? I say hmmm.

Stated very well and is way more accurate than not. Woke theology is the newest 1000 lbs gorilla in the room where Amerika is attempting to spread tyranny. Hopefully, the current pendulum swing will help curb that.

Sillik, your circular word salad here is baseless rhetoric. AND, if you define your stated terms (basis, state, appropriate, civilized, behavior) through your personal dictionary for mentally ill children, it could only make less sense (if that were possible).

Quickly, liberty is the right to act as you please without infringing on another's right. A democracy is "2 wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for supper." Liberty and democracy are diametrically opposed, one to the other. Liberty is a function of nature's law. Democracy is based on a demonic philosophy of men.

How many in today's dumbed down world have any mental cognition of an "abstract concept of full-blown liberty"? Most think that the more governtment licenses and permission slips they have the freer they are. NOT ! ! !  How many understand that individual sovereignty, inalienable rights and liberty at nature's law is/are a faculty of birth of each and every, any and all of our Eternal Father's progeny?

Sillik, considering the source, I accept as high praise your demented ramblings.

I vehemently disagree with most of what Marx wrote! I disagree with an old participant on this sight (Dick) when he said there is no god!  I disagree with Trump and his off topic / misdirection arguments when he says the 14th Amendment doesn't say what it says (backed by SCOTUS)! Law maker / enforcement is/are an oxymoron(s) in a domain of the law of nature and of nature's God — I disagree with policing agents that enforce "legal positivism's" / anti-law compelled compliance, government licenses, victimless crimes, larceny with impunity (2nd plank of the communist manifesto, funny money, non-recognition of perfected allodium, etc.) as well as all other man's cruelty / enslaving to/of man.

I like it a lot. An estute observation in the obvious.

Sillik, as is consistent with your circular word salads and your dictionary for mentally ill children, your definition (with example(s)) of bravery and representation will be absolutely contrary to society's, legal and the adult world's definition(s).

Sillik, your god syndrome speak is WRONG again (continually). For one, I disagree with more than I agree with — as a matter of rule. There are those that I agree with most of the time but, they are the exception. Your consistent frequency is extremely skewed. Your oscillating vibrations are ANTI — rhythmic and contrary to individual sovereignty, inalienable rights and liberty at nature's law. According to your writings, you wouldn't know truth or a demonstration thereof if it bit you in the back side 🤪.

I like it a lot !  Very self evident !