To all who opined here, I have a small tale to tell, of a relative of mine, who fought at Monte Cassino in World War Two, and at El Alamein before that. Post war, he was wrongly pulled over by a Policeman. He'd been hurrying medicines home to his unwell wife, when stopped by the Policeman, who insisted on arresting him and taking him to the local Police Station. Came the part where he had to undress as far as his undershorts (standard practice in that era), and the Policeman saw lines of "zipper-like" scars from his left hip to his neck, the result of machinegun bullets he'd been hit by in the battle at El Alamein, where he had attacked a German machinegun emplacement with hand grenades, after crawling to within throwing range under mg fire. "Gee, that's interesting scarring, "Says the Policeman, "where did you collect that?" (My relative):"I got it in El Alamein, defending the bloody country so it didn't end up being run by bastards like you!" In short, I'm Proud of My Veteran Relative, and forever ashamed My nation produced a Policeman as ignorant as the one who arrested him. Jefferson was right, and My Family among many others has lived to prove it, even outside America. God Bless America: As a nation you have your faults, yet remain Humanity's BEST HOPE for True Freedom. Uyraell, New Zealand.