“Freedom for supporters of the government only, for members of one party only -- no matter how big its membership may be -- is no freedom at all. Freedom is always freedom for the man who thinks differently.”

Freedom is intangible, internal and eternal.

I would normally give this a five but just now thought of Rush and Hannity. Those guys freedom should be denied. I mean they are no better than folks who cry fire in a crowded theatre.

Waff is all for freedom of speech as long as it supports the leftwing agenda. His "crowded theater" analogy is beyond stupid.

R&H are just fear mongers. They should be free to say what they want, and others should be free to sue them for libel & inciting violence.

Waffler has absolutely demonstrated this quote!! Thanks, Reston, for still trusting in due process rather than resorting to 'might makes right.'

Well said, Reston. Waffler, once again, shows his true stripes... If you dislike something, just join the largest group pushing your agenda and get it passed -- don't worry if it violates individual freedom or liberty. Might makes rights -- moral legitimacy is found in the majority's decision, right Waffy boy? Well, as a claimed Christian, you should realize how stupid you are. Sodom and Gommorah were burned because they thought that might makes right; this is the justification for any "wicked" people to make, "Surely, we cannot all be wrong together?!" Well, eh, yeah -- sometimes you can. In fact, that's why Machiavelli analyzed Democracies to find that they don't last longer than 200 years and always end in totalitarian regimes (usually two competing parties/sides/armies -- where finally one side (majority) would finally win over and conquer the dissenting side and subject them into slavery). Once again, Waffler's ignorant ideology loses to historical fact; he's not interested in society's freedom, he's more worried about how he can join himself to the majority's side that's necessary to control people in the way he wants. Traitor to the American cause of liberty!

Reston, what "libel and inciting violence" are you talking about. If any Lib had a case to sue either of these two it would have already happened. You sound almost as ridiculous as Waffler but then Liberals can't stand to hear another point of view.

My first impression was that Luxemburg was just stating the obvious. Then I saw Waffler's contribution. He illustrates the need for people like Luxemburg to keep making that point. Waffler's posts could actually be funny, except for the fact that the clown has just as many votes as I do. I'm reminded of a quote from George Orwell, "Sometimes the first duty of intelligent men is the restatement of the obvious", and why it is so.

Anon from Reston, you forgot the clown posse of O, S, and C.

Many have fought and died for each of our rights to express ourselves, as well as the right of many faceless and nameless citizens of other countries. Those acts on behalf of others are the "shoulders of giants" that we stand on,