Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share via Email Print this Page [1-1] of 1Posts from Dave Whalen, Mount Holly, NCDave Whalen, Mount Holly, NC 11Reply Dave Whalen, Mount Holly, NC 12/6/05 re: Auberon Herbert quote This is the problem with the modern Church today. And this is why we have such problems in the United States, and that is because we have weak churches. And why do we have weak churches? Because Christians today think that the Church is a democracy where everyone can do what they want, live any way they want, pastors pick and choose what they want out of the Scriptures to believe or not to believe, twisting Scripture to please the masses is nothing more than the work of the Devil as St. Paul (Apostle and given authority by Christ by the way in the Church) so aptly states in 1 and 2 Timothy. For Christ gave they keys to the kingdom of heaven to the apostles which is handed down by the laying on upon qualified men who are pastors. And Christ is our King, yes a Monarchy, but a holy one, over the whole Church and world. The Law of God itself and even in the NT, we have the prescriptions laid down for civil government and Church governments. The problem is that today many so-called theologians who are ignorant of the Scriptures mix the two and say, how it should be civilly is how it should be in the Church and vise-versa. I think it is time that the whole Church pick up a copy of St. Augustines "City of God" and learn about the biblical teaching of the two cities, the "City of God" which is ruled by Christ through his Word and authority that he has set up in Church government, and then there is the "City of man" which is ruled by man in order to provide freedom, protection, and to keep order throughout all nations. These two are in the world at the same time and will exist together until Christ returns, but neither are allowed to mix. Basic Sunday school teaching would teach Herbert that in God's Word he has laid down a Representative republic for all civil governments to abide by to provide the best sort of government in a fallen world. And he has also laid down a government for his Church where Jesus is the Monarch, and that means it is not a democracy. But actually, a Representative republic is not a democracy either, never does God allow "mob rule." Amen. SaveOk2 Share on Facebook Tweet Email Print