The "distinct curtailment" has never been more obvious or severe than it is right now in the USSA. Turf the Kenyan and Abolish the Fed.

Same with the OJ jury Mike...

Kimo, at heart all Libertarians are Republicans...not in the GOP sense, but in the Constitutional sense. The tenets of real repiblicanism were dropped from the GOP long ago...and many of us who still respect the Constitution have adopted a new identity with "liberty" built right in to the name. Be Well. :)

This is why I generally enjoy the company of Libertarians. Having respect for one another's property rights implies an honesty and respect found in very few circles.

Small lies lead to bigger lies...and more lies...and this goes on until you have, "government". The two greatest lies of our time: "Money is real" and "Democracy represents the interests of the people".

I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men. ~ Woodrow Wilson. Abolish the Fed.

jim, the trick is not to "tell" them the truth, but to make them curious enough to ask questions. :)

This quote obviously comes from a time when people were in fear of the truth. Possibly because of repercussions from the powers that "were". Thankfully we no longer have that problem, and if we do...it's time to Restore the Republic!

Ya know Hanson, in your seething hatred of all things "not Liberal" you lose all credibility as a sensible person and plant yourself firmly in the the ranks of of rabid socialists. Socialism is a disease like cancer...it eventually kills its host 100% of the time. And I don't think you'll find many of the regular posters here advocating for the Bush's and Reagans of the world, nor will you find them advocating socialism. You see, some of us understand that the "entire system" is rotten and that includes the so called Liberals and the so called Conservatives. Rotten rotten rotten...

jim, you're paraphrasing something Reagan said. The truth is doing it's best to prevail. We have to keep shouting it.

When the truth is telling us to take responsibility for our system and our own lives...too many get that "Deer in the headlights" look.

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness perhaps?

Sometimes the spirit needs to fight fire with fire.

Whether it's in spirtual or civil liberty is a moot point provided you have one or the other...one gaurantees the other.

Well said Mike and Archer, The only thing I would add in response to SCSURFR is that...Of course we must be ready to rally and defend the nation. That is what Patriots do and they do it without being pressed into service when the threat is real. To fund this standing or reserve army though, "income tax" is still not justifiable. Especially given the form it has taken under the criminal Federal Reserve. User fees on commodities would more than suffice to support infrastructure and prevent bullshit like bailing out corporations and foreign banks etc. PLUS!...it leaves people a choice...you don't want to pay tax, then don't buy gas, etc.

Well said Mike.

Spoken as from a "secular" human being. And that's allowed, but I recommend we be guided by a higher form of concience. If you clash with nature or the God of your understanding, you won't last long.

jim, I had the same first thought.

When in doubt tell the truth ~ Mark Twain. Unless it would do someone unneccesary harm, I am usually brutally honest. And I will publicly embarrass a Socialist at every opportunity. ;-) (it's just too easy LOL)

SteBen, well said. I believe in a higher power that I call God. I also believe in my community and carry a faith in my fellow man. I do not put faith in what you very appropriately call the "pointless minutia" of organized religion.

SCSURFR. If you combine material with labor and produce something of value, who's property is that object and what moral right does anyone have to take it from you by force? In a broader sense, if you earn money with your labor and use that money to purchase something of value, who's property is it? And what "moral right" does anyone have to take it from you? The concept of property is simple and natural, which makes it natural law. One must keep in mind that your property rights can not encroach on someone else's property rights. If that does happen...well, that's where we would require a system of justice to right any wrongs incurred. Property rights begin at birth. The vessel you are given by nature or the God of your understanding, (your body) is yours...how could that even be a question? If you are forced to work for someone else's benefit, you have been enslaved...I could go on and on, but hopefully you're getting the picture.

Not sure what Abby is saying...seems a bit cryptic. But after reading all the comments...I'd say we've come full circle and we're back to "property rights" as the only real basis for moral law.

Religion is a private matter, Crime is a public matter. All criminal law must be rooted in property rights in order to be moral. Sadly, we don't have property rights...so we don't have many moral laws.

Waffler, your "love of democracy" is symptomatic of your complete inability to think critically or analyze anything to a logical conclusion...if voting made a difference (it doesn't) it would be illegal. Restore the Republic.

Well RobertFB...If he said it or not, I'll say we need to keep an eye on these corrupt bastards. And throw them in jail when they are caught doing back room deals and receiving bribes. End the Fed, Restore the Republic.