Not sure why Waffler likes to come here - but it sure would be boring if he didn't! He is very good at stating the positions of the status quo, and his unconsciousness is quite prevalent in today's society. I shared his views at one time - it was considered common knowlege. But a lot of things just didn't make sense. I ran across this site a few years ago (among others) and found myself scratching my head when reading the words of my elementary school heros. All I can say is, my eyes have been opened and a patriotic fervor rekindled. Waffler, you keep it up - even if you don't ever get it, these debates do reach many who never comment (like me). I guess the world can't be too far along the road to hell if a forum like this can continue unhampered. Carry on. gents!