I like Archer's approach. True to the point ! Living in a fog where the shading of words cannot be seen. Do not take another pill, it will not be alright, its not ok, if you don't get it ! Wake up Patriots !! The argument for Moral Responsibility will take center stage, it is our experiment of the Free Republic, one nation under God. Knit together in Love of Liberty and Freedom for all. God's laws written in fleshly tables of the heart.

The Gathering together, takes place as we speak ! Seeing eye to eye.

This experiment , and the undertaking of It. To exercise and execute Moral Responsibility within a Free Republic and its governing representatives, bound duly so. President Washington spoke dearly so, of an hidden force this nation trust and waits upon. My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and my arms shall judge the people; the ( isles) shall wait upon me and on mine arm shall they trust. Hearken unto me, you that know righteousness,( the people in whose heart is my law); fear you not the reproach of men, neither be afraid of their revilings. For the moth shall eat them up like a garment, and the worm shall eat then like wool: but my righteousness shall be forever, and my salvation from generation to generation. Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the Lord; awake as in the ancient days." Liberty and Freedom has made the depths of the sea a way for the ransomed to pass over. We have feared continually every day because of the fury of the oppressor. He fears his bread should fail. As Waffler also being his confidant. God pleadeth the cause of his people. The Lord of hosts is our God. Sense before the great Revolution, watchmen, have been called to lift up the voice, that Patriots may see eye to eye. As Washington and others new very well, the time would come when God would make bare his holy ( separate ) arm in the eyes of all the nations. This we wait upon ! Who hath believed our report ? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed ? I have heard a rumour from the Lord, and an ambassador is sent unto the people, saying, Gather ye together, and rise up to the battle. Behold he shall come up and fly as the eagle. Within the republican party are the core fundamentals and principals, but to draw them out when the water is so muddy ? I agree Bob," most likely are found on the right " ! This is not just any old time in time.

Many good comments :) Let the monster be seen, usually comes before an all out assault on persons as property. A swing set on every lawn to start. then, an Oath again, to protect and uphold our Constitution and our Declaration of Peace and War. Now more than ever before, at home.

There again natural law dwells in the hearts of the individual, Out side of any denominational affiliation attaching themselves to God. This bridges the gaps of ignorance and stupidity within the Threskeia, superficial, religious practices of denominationalism. It is the individual which follows the law of a good conscience towards their neighbor that produces a peaceful relationship regardless of their religious upbringings or current religious affiliations. We have God in contract, it is the responsibility of the individual to chasen themselves of their own lust to abuse Liberty. I do like God's name also as, ( I AM ) This is manifest in the, Open vision, afforded the world today. Though rarely or ever spoken of. This, Open Vision, will be brought to light and shown visibly before many nations not long to come. God does manifest himself through the written word, as also the visible illustration which comes to light." The beholding of the eye is better than the wandering of desire." He will show his salvation to the people and nations. The gathering continues of True Patriots, and they come from all quarters of religious denominations. No doubt ! Unity of knowledge knit together in love of Liberty and Freedom .The foundation of a just cause, before The God of Creation.

I would like to add, Moderation with discretion tempered with respect of another's property, both of the mind and body are to be considered when weighing just cause of action taken. I can tolerate a drunk, but I cannot tolerate a Tyrant, drunk with the lust for power to dominate an upright person, by the destruction of that upright persons mind, and then the body. It is bad enough for a derelict tyrant to destroy themselves, let alone to allow them to destroy that which is justifiably upright and honest in word and deed. I do not condone liars, cheats or thieves of any kind to dictate authority over my person or personal wellbeing. Especially within my own household ! of which I am head.

Warren, takes offence to another persons actions ? It is a very hard thing to digest for some. lawlessness has a source. The heart is oracle, the honest conscience bears witness, " Know Thyself " then, " To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man. " The heart is a vulnerable piece of property, preyed upon by corruption in high places. Even within ones own household. To follow that good conscience, to be ( upright ) in your heart requires compassion and meekness of spirit. This argument of moral responsibility is based upon the spirit of the natural laws. Power to be the Head of ones on house, starts within. It has great rewards, but bears many scares of humility upon the torn heart. Especially when administering a just decision. To, check, destruction at its source, sometimes entails and outworking of force, for the good of all parties involved. It can only be argued from the spiritual standpoint of the law, which most attorney's wish to avoid, considering only superficial evidence, because of the corrupt nature of unjust laws on the books at present. An upright person becomes prey to a lawless immoral government. The right of one outweighs the rights of many. Guilty till proven innocent. The moral guide post has become a whipping post, to beat down moral responsibility within the individual who would stand upright and act accordingly. I would hire Mike as my counsel to plead before the court, my case of moral responsibility to myself and others, within my Household. Moderation is the key in the land of Liberty.

Archer :) well said !

Look into the perfect Law of Liberty, forget not, be a goer and not only a hearer. I show you my faith by testimony and the fruits thereof by my works. Laws are for the lawless indeed. A lesser person will not turn, but for a bit and bridle in their mouth, An Upright person will walk at liberty among slaves.

Bob, :) When the righteous are in authority , the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn. When the wicked are multiplied, transgression increaseth: but the righteous shall see their fall. A mans pride shall bring him low, but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit. An unjust law is no law to be observed.

He that loveth a little, is forgiven a little, he that loveth a lot, is forgiven a lot. Mercy rejoiceth against judgment. But whoso looketh into the perfect law of Liberty, and continue therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. Who is a wise man endued with knowledge among you? let him show out of a Good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. This wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. Tamam, innocence, perfection in simplicity, moral and ethical soundness. tome signifies completeness in integrity.

Moses was termed a " proper child " a child of conscience before God. Moses the man of God. Psalms 90

The, thread of truth, must pass through the eye of the needle first, Then knit together in love, the hearts of the Patriots. Women have an inherit, intuit sense of presence. A stich in time saves nine, (spiritual sym.9 and doctrines thereof. ) . As with the blessing of a child at birth. To declare the conscience, must entail the, and always ever present Spirit of Truth. Hence the presence of God in all and through all. The letter killeth but the spirit giveth life. Mother wisdom has mingled her wine. Seek after the spirit, it gives lift to the spirit of understanding by way of the peace of God. Sowing that good seed of truth with love of the truth. A good librarian I'm told will always know which book to put in a troubled child's hand. Their always in the Word. True stiches can be numbered and ordered in time. God's laws of nature. 90 days in the womb.

Well said Bob, Charlotte. Thomas Jefferson, " Men by their constitutions are ( naturally ) divided. Fact ! Obviously Jefferson was a wise depository of truth. God calls individuals, and not a mob to rule. Unity will be reached and the call goes out for commonsense. The heart is an amazing thing.

Mike scolded me for being to brief, the other day. concerning , evils and follies. Rightfully so. I am, a lover of natural law, and its inherit, inspirational qualities. To draw out from the heart of man, that which is within, is the challenge, outworking of the truth with an unfeigned faith, in hope of unity and peace. God creates natural law, Wow !! Where is God ? So many people speak of Gods timing, never in the present, but in the future or past. Befitting for the day. " My tears have been my meat day and night, while they say unto me where is thy God. Hope thou in God: for I shall yet praise him, who is the health of my ( countenance ), and my God." " The ill-timed truth we might have kept- Who knows how sharp it pierced and stung? The word we had not sense to say- Who knows how grandly it had rung?" Liberty, for not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law Shall be Justified. When we do by nature the things contained in the, we are a law unto ourselves. Which show the work of the law written in our hearts. Our Conscience bearing witness, and our thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another. How much more shall the Blood, upon the cross of Liberty through the Eternal Spirit offer itself with out spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? For we trust we have a good conscience, in all things, willing to live honestly, before the people. An unjust law is no law to be observed !! This truth, the natural laws of God written in fleshly tables of the heart, do unit between the pleather of churches, The unity of the knowledge goes out loud and clear, and will prosper in the thing it is sent to. True Patriots. They shall be called, God's sons and daughters, so says the Lord. With out the sheading of blood there is no remission for sin. Hence the sheading of blood by our troops for Liberty sake? It was done once and the reminder is ever before us. Our founding fathers were very, very, brave on behalf of the whole Truth. Truth and reality have met and kissed. Mercy and truth go before the face of God. I pray God give us a clear and sober mind, that he have us think and meditate, say and do the things that are pleasing to him, with charity of presence. Thank you Mike, Archer and Jim, always, for your sober minds and desire to be honest. WAKE UP PATRIOTS AROUND THE WORLD.

The subject of, the doctrine of , persecution, is the subject of peace, in the simplest way. Never through hate, can one hope to achieve the goal, in the planting of the seed of good conscience. Love of truth bears many scars in sowing good seed. with all humility. then one might be a good steward for the outworking of truth.

I will uphold my clear duty, in the face of all adversity. God give us strength in due season that we my endure hardship, as a good ambassador of liberty and peace. Sound morals are morals observed and outwardly worked.

" To him who will Lay violent hands upon it " the innocent honest man who holds his integrity paramount. I go before the court very soon, as a stranger, in a land where there is no fear of God before their eyes. I find my self not able to quietly give up for the sake of their so called peace. The unjust law, that wishes to strip the innocence and honesty from you. For the sake of superficial peace, while derelict, contentious, spiteful, inordinately affectionate people thrive in a way of life totally self destructive by nature. Beating down emotionally all that is honest and true. I can only pray, that through God's Devine Providence, he will raise up allies that will come to my defense. This quote is a living manifestation in my life. Semper Fi. Amen

" Vigilant in it preservation " Most that would conscientiously object to self sacrifice for the sake of another, have not learned the lesson so dear to life. I can speak, from first hand experience. I know, and have learned this very lesson in my life, my life in pearl for speaking up for another fellow Marine, then after receiving, my honorable discharge. Freedom and Rights returned to me and allowed to reach for my dreams in life. Our Liberty and Freedom in this nation, come by way of blood and faith. I enlisted in the United States Marine Core at 17 years old, A good rebellious young man needing a lesson, in life, liberty and freedom with responsibility. It took 11 more years, at 28 years old, to get the Picture and finally sink in, to my arrogant self serving mindset. Then only wishing I could have stayed in the Core and been of that few, who are willing to sacrifice for others, their lives, which are so dear to them. The moral guide post within the mind of man, followed , preserves Liberty and integrity of the individual. It is the most valuable thing I have found in my life, whether rich or poor. It is the test of how we endure affliction, that tempers and hones ones life, and shapes us into what we are. Ancient and old ways are like old tools that keep a sharp edge. They are timeless and always will remain so. God Bless the Free Republic of the USA. Semper Fi.

It is not called hell on earth. it is termed the " pit " and we cling to the sides of it. There are hidden places within the earth, Abrahams bosom, and Hell. there is a gulf between the two. Old saints are there, and other seats of power. Here in this life if you slip to far, you become derelict, and fall to the bottom of the pit.

Could not be more clear or true. Ten stars. Scotland should know and does. As they fight for Independence again also. Consider, the KJB1611 was translated and compiled in Scotland.

The grace of God that bringeth salvation has appeared to all men. He is through all and in all and by him all things consist. The guide post of morality. Can be a whipping post when turned against a morally just minority. As is used in the courts today. Wisdom is known of her children, always has been and always will be. The salvation of God has been spoken of sense the beginning, by all the prophets. " Wherefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, , not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings : That you my be blamless and harmless, the sons of God without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom you shine as light in the world." Phili 2: 12 thru 15 KJB. Commonsense is not very common. He has put the law in our hearts, and the words in thy mouth, he dwells in us, he is to us our God, and we are his sons and daughters. For I am not ashamed of the message of Liberty for it is the power of God unto salvation. If I keep his laws of morality, I walk at Liberty ! I work with an old man, an old, Sho han ryu teacher, a good man. he also walks at Liberty. He is also a Patriot of the Free Republic bound with unjust chains of socialism. There is no need to single out Christians or others who adhere to the laws of God, that govern ones Liberty. Natural laws written in fleshly tables of the heart. " THROUGH DESIRE a man, having separated himself, seeketh and intermeddleth with all wisdom." Solomon's wisdom, Prov 18:1 KJB From about the same time, and he was renowned through out the entire world.

You were free to do so in the beginning. Why spoil it ! Why do you think the French joined the fight in the first Place !

Well said Mike !

His quote is so right on, let the revolt start, I as a Patriot and member of the Core of faith and oath, am sick of the intrusive oppressive nature of the current judicial system making morally upright people cower from governing their own household, it is sick and unjust. Let Scotland rise to the fight and The Republic of the United States of America, Let Israel stand strong for their moral stance in league with the USA and their children abroad !! Liberal socialist by nature have shown their face to me in a very personal way. They have no spiritual value of moral content but only in a superficial light considering the person as a throw away commodity !!