From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: Lucius Mestrius Plutarchus[1] (Greek: Μέστριος Πλούταρχος), c. AD 46 – 120 — commonly known in English as Plutarch — was a Roman historian (of Greek ethnicity), biographer, essayist, and Middle Platonist.[2] Plutarch was born to a prominent family in Chaeronea, Boeotia, a town about twenty miles east of Delphi. His known works consist of the Parallel Lives and the Moralia.

Excellent! Plutarch was also an Historian and it was probably from this position the quote derives it accuracy.

You have just named the one disease that reflects this quote, Cancer, it kills its host

I give this five but I do like Waffler's sticktoitiveness - well done!

Warren, that's exactly what the GOP did with redistricting - they made it nearly impossible for change. Debt is the engine that drives capitalism and as Archer staid "servitude". Without debt there is no profit.

Much better... I'll give your updated version four stars

Mike, Natural law in the making good.

It's amazing how naive we all are - when tombs are uncovered and mounds of gold are found and next to the mounds of gold is the body or the person who robbed the poor - It has little or nothing to do with be tangible its to do with being greedy. Again Waffler is very close with the thought of "good will". The most precious of all tangible assets is Kindness and you bloggers definitely are in need of a little. The same madness we have for money is the same we have for gold. A child if Africa dying of malnutrition doesn't need gold but food if you give gold to the child to buy food it will be stolen and the child still needs food.

Jim, if you are not going to contribute then don't. What is gold and coinage but a form of bartering. Gold and coinage just took over from the barter system so that you could exchange goods without the need to have something that someone else wants. Hey, instead of giving you a cow for six sheep (which you don't have) I'll give you gold or coinage then you can buy six sheep. Waffler you are very close to the truth, others need to get a life.

I disagree, its food and water, but a close second. You could say with Gold you could buy food and water but if that's what everyone needs then no matter how much gold you have it will not matter. Those who become rich from gold usually steal what is needed. Gold is only good when there is a viable market - it times of severe depression people will use commodities to buy other commodities. Greenspan needs to read his history books.

Love it! I just wish it was true on Wall Street. Archer, didn't you know, that is called Fractional Banking System (that is able to leverage debt). Brought about when the fed came into existence. Mike I did reply to you response to my post last Friday.

Mike, thank you for your response - very interesting. Sorry for the late reply. First, you say ‘natural law is subjective and ‘parts of natural law’ are best iterated by religion. And, then you go on to say ‘subjective application displays less liberty and freedom’ – now I am confused as you started by saying that natural law is subjective. If God (it!) is love and it’s acts loving it sure has a peculiar way of expressing itself. Secondly, you still really haven’t explained the literal concept that Christians found acceptable and what Atheists find in the abstract. I do believe that we SHOULD be born equal as you expressed but this is not by some divine power this is by us (the human race) to enforce. Unfortunately around the world this ‘created equal’ is definitely not the case – how can you say to a child born with Aids and whose parents have been slaughtered, who has no food or clean water, whose life expectancy is only years away, that the child is born equal – you are born into circumstances, all else is conjecture and hypothesis. How do we know when ‘God of Nature’s law is transgressed or broken’ if ‘Natural law subjective’? I am very impressed with your holistic view of your religion and that alone is most commendable (a rare commodity with most religions). I believe that liberty and freedom suffers from an individual lack of being intimate with Self and consequently this is reflected by society but its origin is Self. Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, and Oligarchies are all invented by human’s and that does not cr and they are not the cause we like to thinks it is their fault there are problems and What made America great is that Europe moved to America – not so for the native Indians who were practically wiped out (genocide). Russia and China don’t need a tax base when they steel from the land and make slaves of its people – If a country has no industry and relies on imports and credit to survive (such as America) you need a healthy tax just to keep things greased. What’s amazing is all this talk about taxes when many American companies and individuals don’t pay any. The wealthy and unscrupulous are able to circumvent the tax system because they can afford too. I don’t know why I got onto tax commentary it has taken me away from the subject at hand. And as for the Ten Commandments (I presume you mean Moses?) Well, that is best left alone – sorry Mike you lost me here. “The Ten Commandments are broken down legally into 2 jurisdictions. Those commandments that address innocent 3rd parties (murder & larceny) are to be addressed by public scrutiny. And, those that remain of a personal, religious, or intellectual status are to remain private without public scrutiny. Thus, that which is common to all is binding on all.” I find the interpretation of natural law protecting those who abide the law incredibly convoluted – it is very simple; those who govern on behalf of the people are responsible for the lawful society in which it governs. It has nothing to do with God, Natural law, or the Ten Commandments. Most of the Ten Commandments were stolen from other beliefs and writings. “Thou shall not kill” is exactly that – If God or Leviticus wanted to provide degrees they would have. Mike, I agree re; your list of laws that are broken though they are done so contrary to Self - the only mandate of any consideration is the one of Self. Our argument could last days, but suffice to say, I believe your heart is in the right place and after all that is what’s important.

Figuratively my dear chap...

Please Mike explain "Natural Law" Your explanation, though quite interesting, does not fully answer Wafflers question. If man is to abide by Natural Law to have freedom and Liberty who is responsible the the accountability of mans actions according to Natural Law? And, is Natural Law common and basic to all or just those that have the code? Any oversight of natural law must be by its very nature subjective unless there is an organized body and if that is the case then you are back to square one. In the end the only true law is Self and if you look to self all will be found. God or is self in this case and you are its master otherwise there is no self and no god. Mike, when you say 'The more accurate Natural Law's application by man, the greater the liberty and freedom" are you referring to Self or some abstract code, if the later, then how is man to apply Natural Law without knowledge of it? I am still mystified as to how this 'natural law is shared or disseminated? Please continue this thread I found it fascinating. Have a nice day, Robert.

It doesn't matter what you call it when you have greed and corruption driving the process. I am writing a book on Ethics so any help you can provide will be much appreciated. I think this is a good blog for this request. I know we differ in our views and opinions but I believe your hearts are in the right place and in the end that's what matters. My reason is simple - just look around you and there is your answer. please pass on your positive contribution (no negative stuff) to robken16@gmail.com Thank you...Robert

It doesn't matter what you call it when you have greed and corruption driving the process. I am writing a book on Ethics so any help you can provide will be much appreciated. I think this is a good blog for this request. I know we differ in our views and opinions but I believe your hearts are in the right place and in the end that's what matters. My reason is simple - just look around you and there is your answer. please pass on your positive contribution (no negative stuff) to robken16@gmail.com Thank you...Robert

It doesn't matter what you call it when you have greed and corruption driving the process. I am writing a book on Ethics so any help you can provide will be much appreciated. I think this is a good blog for this request. I know we differ in our views and opinions but I believe your hearts are in the right place and in the end that's what matters. My reason is simple - just look around you and there is your answer. please pass on your positive contribution (no negative stuff) to robken16@gmail.com Thank you...Robert P.s. The quote it is trite but I give it two stars for the question still remains

I agree but how about speaking in plain English

Words can only be judged in respect of the persons character - if there is no integrity then the words are meaningless and should not be considered. Words are only meaningful said from a position of integrity.

JFK was way ahead of his time - and we still don't get it!

Now you have the motive for his assassination; along with an arms deal he wouldn't sign, etc. etc.

What great rhetoric for a dumb nation

The election of Obama has vindicated America throughout the world - with of course the exception of a few on this blog. Please see Obama's press conference this morning.

I am reminded of this quote: 'Words have the power to both destroy and heal. When words are both true and kind, they can change our world.' - Buddha

Well said James - we need three things NOW, ethics, ethics, and ethics. How dare congress provide banks with billions without public engagement - why isn't the ways and means providing us with understandable accountability. It's amazing, we say nothing about what is currently happening with our tax dollars and yet give someone free health care and you scream to high heaven.You right-wing, fundamentalist, libertarian, fascists need a history lesson - we praise Jesus for healing the sick and providing food for the hungry and yet when government does it all hell breaks loose. Prudence indeed but not hypocrisy and mediocrity.