Eric, watch the movie ZEITGEIST more carefully next time. The "fact" that Jesus was born on december 25 is shown to NOT be a fact, and is, in fact, as the documentary makes clear, simply the date many so-called "saviors" were born. This is because, the doc asserts, Christianity, as well as Judaism, is one in a long line of mythical religions based on the SUN, and other astrology phenomena. December 25th is the day the sun rises one degree above the horizon after coming to its nadir on the 21st/22nd, the winter solstice. Notice that the 25th, the day the sun "rises from the dead," is about three days later. The reason "The actual date is still unknown although many scholars believe it to be sometime in spring or summer," is because, the doc asserts, Jesus did not exist and "scholars believe" in their own vivid imaginations. The "'there is no Jesus crap'" comes from the FACT that the entire Jesus story - or the 4 slightly contradictory versions of it in the Bible that were declared the "word of God" by a group of powerful men behind closed doors - is merely a plagarization of a very common (I'd even say trite or cliched) myth found throughout the ancient world before and after Jesus, but most specifically of Egyptian, and to a lesser extent Greek, mythology. All these myths centered around some type of half-human, half-god savoir, who was born on december 25th, preached peace and brotherhood, was killed by the authorities, and was resurrected three days later. They also all come from worshipping the sun and keeping record of astrological phenomena. The film ZEITGEIST makes this and many more things quite clear...if you but look hard enough. With that said, I do not believe all the 9/11 conspiracy stuff. There are still many questions that go unanswered in its explanation. Still, nowhere did the movie cite "loose change."