“Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us.”

The sovereign libertinus bestows virtuous freedom upon his servants to represent him at liberty, freedom, rights, law, and justice. Liberty is the: "freedom from restraint. The power of acting as one thinks fit, without any restraint or control, except from the laws of nature." (Bouvier's Law Dictionary) The laws of nature and of Nature's God define virtuous being and the harmonious acts thereof. Acts outside the laws of nature are neither liberty or virtue.

One is only free to do "as he pleases" in as much as he commits no crimes and respects the rights of others. The crimes aspect being in the context of a system of justice.

Virtue has somewhat to do with relationality while freedom has somewhat to do with lack of relationality. Every thing seems to have the ying and yang, the Greeks discovered the answer - Moderation In All Things. THE HAPPY MEAN!

Virtue is unknown to the Obama, Pelosi, and Reed gang of power crazed thugs. We wouldn't want to let a little thing like honesty and virtue stand in the way of that bunch and their desire to control everything in our nation.

Liberty without virtue is a curse a society brings about itself when it puts their faith in an elite minority who then create laws that ultimately favor them (the elite) and their minions cursing the rest of society to work for their luxurious existence. What power they have just from owning and profiting from the perpetual debt monetary systms of the world!

Lack of virtue is what is removing our liberty. If one does not take responsibility for his conduct then others will have to do it for him. Freedom and liberty is a big responsibility. The irresponsible person robs us all.

We have no Liberty as there is no Virtue in having our boys and girls killed for the sake of corporate America - to name just one of many reasons. Mike the threads continued

Liberty without virtue is not liberty because only the virtuous understand true liberating measures.  The common masquerading of the nonvirtuous, however popular, is the individual degenerating into a prison of the mind.