Humanist Manifesto (Article 12) Quote

“We have reached a turning point in human history where the best option is to transcend the limits of national sovereignty and to move towards the building of a world community...”


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jim kilpatrick, Austin , Tx

Building a World Community strikes me as about the worst thing I could ever imagine. If this ever happens there won't be any hills to head to.

Bruce, 'Bama

A natural and inevitable occurrence. But the word community may need to be defined.

Eric Engstrom, Wichita, KS

Well I'll be one of the 5-7 million insurgents in the US. Then we'll see who the better fighting force is. I love a good fight to the death!!

Mike, Norwalk

When the rest of the world believes in individual sovereignty, liberty, and freedom; and, rejects compelled compliance, license, victimless crimes, theft of the noble laborer's fruits, forced charity - ID - insurance, torture as a means of information extraction, religion bashing, mental and social dis-orders claiming greater rights than the moral, etc., etc., etc., lets talk.

Bruce, 'Bama

I was in an Atlanta tavern last Friday. The beautiful young 20 yr. old waitress started talking to me. She is the daughter of a retired Italian-American army officer. She looked latino but spoke English and infomed me she was born in Seoul Korea, her mother was in the tavern kitchen. I told her I had served in Seoul and we found out that she went to American High School at Yongsan District Command where I served. I found out that her parents are now divorced and he is retired living in Korea "He likes it there", she said. So American born father lives in Korea and the Korean born mother lives in Atlanta. The young lady Amanda has only been here two years but talks and acts just like the rest of us. I have met sailors on leave who are shocked to see the international fleets of yachts and sail boats when they put into "foreign" ports all over the world. People from London, Cape Town, New Orleans, New York, Miami, Milan, Barcelona all hanging out and living in their boats in San Francisco for example and every where else. The world wide travel of people of course is an amazing phenomenon. Tens of thousands of Americans live full time in Mexico, Central America, Europe and everywhere else. And tens of thousands of foreign nationals have permanent residence in the Good Ol'e USA. Watching TV last night they interviewed professors from all over the world and many in America who were from all over the world.What term would you use to describe or define this mix up of the peoples of the world? It sounds like a community of some sort to me.

Bruce, 'Bama

Mike is it your position now that the United States of America believes in all of the things you said and rejects all of the things you said and none of the rest of the world does believe those things nor rejects those things. I thought you believed that most people in America did not believe those things or reject those things either just like the foreigners you accuse.

Mike, Norwalk

I believe that a majority of Americans do believe as most foreigners. I also believe because of the US: culture, history, Constitution, legal jurist prudence, religion/belief systems, individualism, corporate mentality, etc., liberty and freedom have a greater chance of revival here than anywhere else in the world.

fra59e, San Diego

America's most important contribution to humanity may well be the promotion of Madisonian constitutional separation of church and state, an entirely new concept at the time. There are very few places that have emulated us about this, but the few that have set out to build a secular state have done well. Examples that come to mind are Japan after MacArthur and South Africa after Mandela. Other states that have drifted into the model of a nation under a God invariably find a despotic leader ready to assert that he is that God's spokesman like the Kaiser and Hitler. If the American model is accepted more widely we will approach a world of more liberty and more prosperity and that is a kind of globalization I could live with. More individual freedom and initiative and less coercion exercised from the top down. America's highest authority is We the People.

Mike, Norwalk
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Mike, Norwalk fra59e, San Diego 2/18/19

fra59e, it sounds like you suffer from ecclesiastical seminaries (government schools). As I've legally and otherwise defined religion on this site, patrons of the occupying statist theocracy infesting this land can't handle the accuracy so they have to change definitions to fit their narrative. By way of example: an extra human experience such as a presumed "god" is not useful in describing a religion (i.e. Buddhism, Humanism, Socialism, etc.) The once de jure individual sovereign's representative republic no longer exists as it has been replaced by despotic leaders as carnal gods, enforcing demonic dogmas (compelled compliance, government licenses, victimless crimes, larceny with impunity (2n plank of the communist manifesto, Social Security, police state confiscations, etc.) and non/anti-recognition of inalienable rights and perfected allodium. To further explain the complete adulteration of liberty, the laws of nature and of nature's God and justice (merging of secular administrations and religious justifications) are illustrated by tenants of religion, i.e., feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, financing the indigent, housing the homeless, caring for the sick and afflicted, human sacrifice to gods of pleasure and life style and religious ordinances such as marriage. Again fra59e, where is a secularly administered land of natural law and liberty?    I don't know of one either.

Bruce, 'Bama-Roll Tide

Very well said fra59e.

warren, olathe

Another great communist quote. Nothing could be better to prevent the individual from being free that one world government. Anyone that thinks that the Humanist Manifesto is not the work of satin is an idiot. This is the vilest document ever written. It is pure love of state and hate for individual liberty.

Humanistic Mediator, Denver

The Humanist Manifesto has nothing -- and I must emphasize the word NOTHING, for the benefit of our conservative friends here -- to do with a New World Order. NOTHING. The New World Order stuff is coming out of transnational corporations, central banks, and related institutions like the World Bank and the IMF. These are all supported -- strongly -- by neoCons and others purporting to be CONSERVATIVES, but who, in fact, are fascists. Incidentally, the globalists (all of whom presented themselves as conservatives) LOVED Communism, and LOVED fascism.

Felipe, São Paulo

(just gonna copy what I said in another quote today)
Even here, we have some of those "brillants" deffending a world "order"? Please, sign me off from this ride. No thanks, I rather have my politicians as close as possible so I can scream/slap/hang/guillotine them whenever they become evil. The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen. Or else, the bigger the gov, the farther its rulers are from its citizens. A global govern would never be peaceful or of great prosperity, no. It would become quickly and awful dictatorship, one very hard to fight against, but nevertheless people will fight it daily. The in-fights within the gov and its members would soon replace our wars too, and not to any improvement. Corruption and stifle of free speech would be daily routines.
Bill is right, in a sick way, however, by saying that the nation states are overdue. The well of progress wants to keep churning and needs to eat those up next, since now our tech no longer needs them. But this is not a good thing. This future we march to is not to be desired, but to be fought. We still have other options.
And by the way, we could get rid yes of nation-states, but I prefer to replace them for regional states then a global one.

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