“Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal.”

common sense but rarely heard

Common sense? There is a complete lack of it here. "Prohibition" in a "liberty quote" is an oxymoron.

The art is in finding the middle ground gray area and negotiating it with success. There is no art to polarized black & white decisions.

Janet Reno was and is a nazi. She worked under Clinton, agrees with Lenin, and killed liked Osama.

Subjects can and should be disarmed Don, so good on ya mate! Us Free Men will retain our arms and the other perogatives of Free Men. We will give up our arms only unto death. I hope that frightens right down to your core. The United States will NEVER disarm its population. It would start another Civil War. And the military would step aside and keep outsiders at bay.

NO gun should be prohibited. Prohibition is the end game of gun control. Perhaps Don Dalgleish will be the next victim of a criminal who doesn't care about gun prohibition.

I give it a 4 for being a useful lesson in how the enemies of freedom think.

go Janet

And this coming from the woman who ordered the burning deaths of children at Waco, sent a little boy to live under the heel of a Communist dictator, and made sure the criminal actions of Federal Law enforcement agents were allways swept under the rug. If I had her record on Liberty, I wouldn't want the public to be armed either.

..laughs.. I find it funny that an Englishman would champion gun control as "common sense" when it was because of the private use of arms that his country lost American control.

Let it be known that the intent of the US government is to disarm the populace -- as soon as they can figure out how to do it.

Don Dalgleish, London: It's not called 'common' for nothing, is it? 'DEAD common'! In Britain, where the gun ban is virtually absolute, we have the following USDOJ statistics: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/html/cjusew96/crpr.htm || That said, hyperbolic accusations are rarely of much use to anyone. I haven't been able to find the full text (context) of this quote - any leads would be nice to have. On it's face it's a really frightening stance.

Fuck Janet Reno.

What do you expect? It's Janet Reno! Notice how most of the individuals making these statements have never had to walk a city street by themselves without a bodyguard. Reality dosen't live there!

Oh, Anon, Raleigh, Really. What would we do without the benefit of people, with whom we disagree sufficiently, to motivate us to order our thoughts into cogent arguments supporting (or possibly modifying) our own 'positions'?

Well Terry, one thing we Wouldn't do is waste time arguing with idiots.

Anon, Raleigh, How right you are.

Contemptible hag.

She's a murderous whore. Who got away with multiple homicide and crimes aginst children. I step further than OJ It wouldnt surprise me none the least if she wasn't sleeping with osama.

Manure

I was just wondering if the right of the people to bear "arms", includes the right to tactical nuclear weapons? I find no distinction in the constitution.

Stephen, There is no distinction, back when the Constitution was written the most powerful 'weapon of war' was a Sailing ship with muzzle-loading cannon, and they were privately owned and commissioned by governments as 'privateers' to legally harrass other countries' shipping.

I rate this very highly, not because I agree with gun control (I don't), but because I *strongly disagree* with gun control. Taken at face value, this statement supports the warnings I've heard from U.S. target-shooting enthusiasts. It also flies in the face of denials of intent to disarm the citizenry. I would, however, like to see it in context.

I would dance on her grave.

Shame the bitch isn't dead yet. Piss on her and Hanoi Jane. Both should be shot for treason.

simple, let her get robbed at gun point, or have someone invade her home...is she going to try and talk it out first?!?

Janet Reno is an oathbreaker. She swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic. I hope Tolkien was right about oaths following oath breakers until the end of all time. I hope hers haunts her into her grave.

Not that I'm a Janet Reno fan but she denies having ever said that...

I see this quote a lot but haven't seen any proof that she ever made it. If anyone can provide the proof that she made this comment it would be very beneficial to make it available. The repeated posting of this alleged quote without proof ever being supplied is very damaging to the support for public firearms ownership. If anyone can supply proof to this quote please make it available. leeway337@hotmail.com

It does not bode good for this site to list "Quotes" without verification, (i.e. time, place, venue).

I have also sought to find the actual source of this quote. The closest I have been able to come is the following which concludes the quote is not true.

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The "B'nai B'rith" speech by "Janet Reno"

"The most effective means of fighting crime in the United States is to outlaw the possession of any type of firearm by the civilian populace."
---Falsely attributed to Janet Reno, then-state attorney for Dade County, speech to Ft. Lauderdale, Florida B'nai B'rith gathering, ca.1991.

This supposed "quote" first got national attention when it appeared in the April 1995 issue of Soldier of Fortune, as part of an article by Mike Williams entitled "Citizen Militias: '...Necessary to the Security of a Free State...' " and was picked up by the New York Times Syndicate as part of their coverage of the militia movement in the wake of the bombing in Oklahoma City.

According to editorials by Martin Dyckman, published in the St. Petersburg Times May 2 and May 28, 1995, the "quote" appears to have originated with an affidavit written by Fred Diamond of Miami, FL who claimed to have heard Reno speak in Coral Gables (not Fort Lauderdale) "on or about November 1, 1984". According to Diamond's affidavit, "Janet Reno told the members of our group assembled, that waiting periods were only a step, that registration was only a step, and further that the prohibition of the private ownership of firearms was the only ultimate solution to controlling crime. I was shocked and appalled to hear her, an elected public official sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution, espouse and advocate a position that would effectively repeal the guarantees of the Second Amendment."

Early in 1993, after Reno was nominated to be Attorney General, Diamond talked to Marion Hammer, then the National Rifle Association's Florida lobbyist, and NRA sent him affidavits to sign. Diamond says he rejected their first draft. Subsequently, Hammer's newsletter, Florida Firing Line, published an article on Reno in March 1993, including almost word for word the key passage from Diamond's affidavit about what Reno allegedly said, but the newsletter put the speech in 1991, not 1984. Diamond didn't sign the affidavit (with the correct year) until June 17, 1993, after Reno had already been confirmed.

Reno has been questioned about the "quote" and denies having said it, either in 1991 or 1984. A spokesman for the Justice Department, Bert Brandenburg, told the New York Times syndicate: "The assertion is untrue and the attorney general has never made such a statement" (Cleveland Plain Dealer, May 2, 1995). The Reno "quote" has appeared in print elsewhere, including National Review on May 29, 1995 as part of an article by Alan W. Bock about the militia movement; and was reprinted in a Guns and Ammo editorial by Ed Moats on concealed carry in October of 1996.

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http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcbogus.html

Whoever said it , the quote is accurate .

Patriots will NEVER relinquish our natural-born right of self-defense, nor will we EVER stand-down as the sovereign Militia overseeing our priceless Liberty. When govt is on our side, everything is groovy. When tyranny infests our institutions, it's time for a bloodletting. We People have peacefully petitioned, and so far only gotten killed/imprisoned/ridiculed by our despotic criminal govt and its intellectually libtarded Sheeplish supporters; and now as King Barry (whoops - forgot to put the fuc in front of that) appears to be running interference for ever more violent muslim escapades which are unfolding daily, it becomes readily apparent the time is ripe to nourish The Tree Of Liberty!!

Prohibition of weapons in the USA creates a fear driven market of loss. Striking the Biggest spark within Patriots hearts and hottest fires of passion for SELF-DEFENSE. Weak minds in places of leadership make for the biggest fools, enticing and entreating the biggest of wars. There is a VERY BIG STORM COMING !!

We are coming to the point that we will have to make sure that there is concealed weapons at all gatherings to feel like we have a chance if attacked. We are importing high risk people from a high risk area and calling for our citizens to disarm. When the attacks come they happen in places that are unlikely to resist because more often than not it will be in a gun free zone. More than ever we need to arm ourselves because we have a government that thinks that political correctness is more important than protecting the citizen or the constitution. The idea that we can get Islam to like us is absurd. Any one that is not Muslim Is an infidel and can be lied to, cheated, robbed, or killed with out any "sin" being committed.leaves us with the question that either our government is promoting the ensuing chaos or are total idiots. I can not believe that they are idiots.

Thanks, Louis, we'll check into the source. Cheers.