Richard Thompson Quote

“Nothing is plainer than that, if the principles of the church of Rome prevail here, our Constitution would fall. The two cannot exist together. They are in open and direct antagonism with the fundamental theory of our government and of all popular government everywhere.”

~ Richard Thompson

The Papacy and the Civil Power, in Fifty Years in the Church of Rome (Chick Publications), p. 285

Ratings and Comments


Waffler, Smith

He is correct. THE CHURCH always hated first the reformation, second protestantism, and third human freedom. It may have learned and toned down its megalomaniacal tendencies but they were always there.

Anon
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Anon    8/21/09

Depends on what principles of the church are noted. Principles of individual freedom can be found in almost all religions and in particular christianity. These principles are not antagonistic with the fundamental theory of self government and so support our Constitution rather than cause its failure. The quote is misleading I.M.O. though it has some basic truth to it.

Mike, Norwalk

I'm not sufficiently privy to the principles of the church of Rome to compare them to the Constitution.Both Waffler and Anon do set forth observations worth noting and investigating. The one recent Papal declaration concerning 'one world money' that I am aware of is in direct violation to the Constitution, principles of prosperity and sound fiscal law but, that is not enough information for me to make a full comparison. I am sufficiently privy to the principles of the Constitution to know the current statist theocracy that now infests this nation is in open and direct antagonism to such fundamental principles and theory of said Constitution.

Justin, Elkland

Totalitarianism in all its forms is contrary to our Constitution.

cal, lewisville, tx

We must never have a theocratic form of government. Just look at the Arab nations that do.

jim k, austin

When the Catholic church protected pedophile priests I lost any respect that I ever had for it.

jim k, austin

And amen to Cal, lewisville.

Politickler, St. Louis

Chick Publications? Will you be quoting from Klan pamphlets next?

Paul, Gig Harbor, WA

Jesus talked about the practices of Rome indirectly when He said, "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat." (Matt 23:2-3) Which was to say, some people will try to overrule what even God Himself has said, and will force you into submission (if they can). And Rome even haughtily, audaciously admits this: “[The pope holds] upon this earth the place of God Almighty.” (Papal Encyclical, “The Reunion of Christendom," 1885, Pope Leo XIII) It cannot be said that every Catholic believes the pope can dismiss the Constitution, nor even that every pope is of the same authoritarian mindset in every age. But understand that the machine of Rome produces such comments as the following, it trains the minds of its priests who train the minds of the young adherents, and for this reason we must always keep a wary eye on Rome: “There is only reason for this evil [over individual conscience - pm], and that remedy is absolute and blind obedience to a prudent director. Choose one, consult him as often as you desire, but do not leave him for another., Then submit punctiliously to his direction. His conscience must be yours for the time being. And if you should err in following him, God will hold him, and not you responsible.” (Explanation of Catholic Morals, p. 24.) “Once he does so [enters the church - pm], he has no further use for his reason. He enters the Church, an edifice illumined by the superior light of revelation and faith. He can leave reason, like a lantern at the door.” (Explanation of Catholic Morals, p. 76.) “Obey blindly, that is, without asking reasons. Be careful, then, never to examine the directions of your confessor ...In a word, keep before your eyes this great rule, that in obeying your confessor you obey God. Force yourself, then, to obey him in spite of all fears. And be persuaded that if you are not obedient to him it will be impossible for you to go on well; but if you obey him you are secure.” (Cardinal Liguori, Spouse of Christ, p.161.) PS to Politickler: Criticize the content, not the publisher. Thomas Paine didn't write "Common Sense" via Doubleday, but his words were true and set the world on fire with them.

Pat, Shakopee

message to Paul, Gig Harbour WA. To compare Jack Chick and Thomas Paine puts either your ignorance or your bigotry on display. Do you know who Jack Chick is? Do you know his hatred? Using your rational, I would have to listen and agree with Adolph Hitler when he said that he would deliver to the gertman people a working economy. Hitler (words) did set the world on fire with them.

E Archer, NYC

The Vatican has had to keep up with the times to keep their followers. Centuries ago the Roman Catholic Church was superior to even the monarchs of Europe -- all had to be confirmed by the Pope. Jefferson had a disdain for the Jesuit missionaries -- many of the Founders agreed as the new world was a bastian for Protestant followers. But the practice of predatory banking and a corrupt money system far out weigh any danger posed by the Catholic church. We need some serious kicking over the tables of the money changers right now.

David Ben-Ariel, Toledo

Beyond Babylon: Europe's Rise and Fall reveals the Roman Catholic Cult's murderous hatred of any independent thought, whether political or religious, that dares to disagree with their traditional error and expose their sinful darkness. www.davidbenariel.org

J. B. Wulff, Bristol, CT

Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's and unto God the things that are Gods! There is a certain clarity to the stated admonition from Christ to all His day. My God has given given me free will. Our American heritage has given us "Roe vs Wade" and a host of others. Not being a Roman Catholic believer, I cannot look into one's

Anonymous, Hansville

What was said of the Church of Rome then is even more true of Islam today. We must wake up to the fact that it is inimical to any form or secular government and to religious or political freedom. Islam hates everything in our laws, our culture, our Constitution, and our Bill of Rights and it is right here, now, in our country, trying to weasel its way into control step by stealthy step.

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