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I whole-heartedly agree Archer. It's a pleasure talking with you.

I do see your point although I probably will never concede it. My point is that if all religion were removed from human society, people, having the nature that we have, would find a way to single out those not like ourselves to make war against. Human tribes have always warred with each other because competition is nature's way. All of the world's religions are civilizational memes that are in conflict with one another. The religion substitutes for the tribe and, because it is not based on ethnicity or race, it can become an ever larger "tribe" itself. That is why you find Hindus attacking Christians in India while both are being attacked by Muslims and Muslims attacking Buddhists in SE Asia, among others-competing memes. All religions, as all civilizations, are not equal. As Toynbee points out civilizations can become stagnant and stop developing. I believe his term was "arrested civilizations". That is where Islam finds itself now and that is why it is so dangerous. It feels threatened by the success of its competitors. Christians and Jews are still part of dynamic, developing civilizations and are not as threatened by competitors and are not, therefore, as dangerous. As you say religion is politics at least in part but is also more. It is a civilizations mythos that explains our place in the world. Part of America's mythos is Judeo-Christianity as well as our own founding documents. Our founders were wise not to have state interference in religion (either in establishment or prohibition). That eliminates much of the excuse for conflict. To each his own. As for arrogance and self-righteousness, it is not so much a product of religion as of human nature.

No, it's not socialism. It is just another example of politicians playing a charitable benefactor with other people's work. It's so easy to be benevolent when it costs you nothing. Same as it ever was.

The classical liberal rightfully insists that the State is servant to the people, because the each individual delegates certain specific God given rights to the State, and has the right to take them back. The State exists to make the lives of individuals better. The modern liberal is simply a Communist in training (and most have almost graduated) who believes we are all just a cog in the great machine of State in which the State exists for the betterment of itself. The term "liberal" as applied today is one of the biggest lies ever. They have more in common with Stalin than Thomas Jefferson.

Woodrow Wilson was apparently trying to be a wolf in sheep's clothing. He was one of the biggest global government politicians of his day. He moans about power in the hands of bosses and employers. He doesn't say he thinks that power should be in the hands of politicians like himself.

That is the point Senator.