this string is a really interesting read - notes from many walks of life. historians appreciate TJ was most interested in a common principal of public liberty in the republic but only if checked by a continuing debate of new conditions and actions. the debate is apparent, and if the common principal is liberty where has it been sacrificed at large on US soil? some argue wire taps, torture and bombing are aborrations of our government but who can truely argue that the people have been denied a voice in correcting those offences. that is liberty - people are just not happy with their own limited effect and timing. the bad timing is what ends up spilling the blood of patriots and tyrants but as that argrian TJ analogized that tree needs it's natural manure.