song of Solomon ch 7:9, And the roof of thy mouth like the best wine for my beloved, that goeth down sweetly, causing the lips of those that are asleep to speak.

Tears to my eyes.

Creator, One of the best of words, seven letters, 7 the number of completion, perfection. The Creator does make it simple.

Subjective fact, What you think want change it. Go Mike.

It might take a bigger scaffold Archer. Like it Mike.

So true, so true. Mike.

"These are the times that try mens souls : the summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country, but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem to lightly: it is dearness only that gives everything its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods, and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as freedom should not be highly rated."
~ Thomas Paine

If you wish to bolster unity with in the party set aside the humanistic secular thoughts that have no place with those that believe in Divine Guidance. As brother Paine !!! Master builders are required to represent our Republic, not journeymen. ! If you do not believe in something else besides yourself be Quiet so you may observe who the enemy is. Otherwise speak for the Republic and not against its constituents. Unity is what we seek not doubtful disputation with in ranks ! Otherwise you only speak to hear yourself talk !!

It is very important to guard against perverted behavior around our children. Weather a person would hid in the closet or not. Even in your mind the unrighteous thoughts you are held accountable. Be as good as you can be if you wish to represent our children. Master builders are required for representation of our Republic. ! Not journeyman.! It is not the states responsibility, but the parents to be diligent in their judgment of who to hire and fire ! You might want to stand for Liberty and Freedom, but unless you are able to bolster unity, you only cast a doubt of secular and humanistic thought that has no place with those that trust in Divine Guidance as Paine. !! Division with in the party is the enemy within. If you do not believe in something other than yourself stand aside and be Quiet. So you might see who is your enemy !

I would like to thank the editor of Liberty Quotes for the opportunity to openly discuss sound doctrine in this forum which goes around the world. Unity of knowledge is what we seek. The whole truth and nothing but the truth so help me God. Keep your feet on the ground and your eyes on the stars, walk softly and carry a big stick.!!

There are many in such positions that are swayed by corporate, and private entities condoning perverted behavior under the cloak of liberty in our nation. Never the less it seems that there are a few families, perhaps 5 that wish to control the wealth and mind set of the populous of the planet. Knowing the cyclical nature of continuance. Well thought out over the course of time. Handed down from generation to generation.

The truth is two edged. Right on point Archer. Liars and thieves. Those on the hill have a lot to loose. And in other places also ! Let God be true but every man a liar. To avoid the deception put on the armor of light. Be honest ! Honesty to stand with the, humility to walk with the.

Jim there you go again, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation. But is within. Paine new with his brothers in arms that the church is not made with hands. With the challenge laid upon their ministry of this experiment of administration of a highbred form of government, ( grace ) they needed Divine guidance. Who would think to set the little man free ? God.!
what a challenge !! After all that Noah went threw, he planted a vineyard. Habakkuk was given to his wine also. Though he was allowed to walk in his high places. Paine new !!. Cal it is simple. Christ died to Make men Free from oppression. !! But you must trust with all your heart, that Christ died for ( all ) your sins. None excluded. Trust. Colo 2;13, Titus 2:14, Eph 1:7, Colo !:14. Redeem us from all iniquity. !st Corin 15:3,4 confirms this as this is the gospel of Christ according to the apostle Paul, which brings us this good news. He declares that it is his gospel thirteen times, by which Jesus Christ was raised from the dead. Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel.

For those that have any insight, The glory reveled in the heavens, riches in glory Paul speaks of pertaining to the gentiles, Riches given before the foundation of the world for our glory ( knowledge ) . Isaiah 40 : 25 thru 31. To whom then will you liken me, or shall I be equal ? saith the Holy One. Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one faileth. Why sayest thou O Jacob, and speakest , O Israel, My way is hid from the Lord, and my judgment is passed over from my God ? Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary ? there is no searching of his understanding. He giveth power to the faint ; and to them that have no might he increaseth strength. Even the youths shall faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall; But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run and not be weary; and they shall walk and not faint.
Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion ?
Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season ? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?
Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven ? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth.
Who hath put wisdom in the inward parts ? or who hath given understanding to the heart.
Who can number the clouds in Wisdom ? or who can stay the bottles of heaven.
One that is called according to his purpose can. Ordained of God to revel unity of knowledge.
god bless you all !

Blind leading the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
Jim, Your so far off base, spreading doubt, never fixed anything or ever brought unity to true believers. Obviously there are things hidden, only to be reveled to those that would speak in due season. Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an alter with this inscription , TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. God that made the world and all thins therein, seeing he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands: Neither is worshiped with mens hands, as though he needed anything, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; and hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: For in him we live, and move and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. Forasmuch then we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and mans device. And the times of this ignorance God winked at; But now commandeth all men every where to repent. Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Further more, my name is not Jesus Christ, though I do represent him, My Lord and savior The Lord of hosts.

Robert, I do take your stab at the South personally. Knowing my jewish heritage. By way of Israel to Spain, and from Spain to the British Isles. From the Isles to America. From The Smokey Mountains to Alabama. A little town in south Alabama. Where I grew up at the feet of a Teacher of preachers that bear the truth of liberty and freedom in all honesty. I grew up in a denomination and then was separated at age 28 out from organized religion in like pattern as the apostle Paul. He is the pattern to all those that would thereafter believe on Christ. Can you guess who I am ?
Some have waited a long time, but do know of this mans line of things. Very few, but this truth is known. By the way, the South was highjacked by the north to suppress this knowledge of liberty and freedom and those that take a stand with Paul rather than Peter. Are you a catholic Robert that does watch to many movies ? You do not met what you hear.

Rome was feeding ( Christians ) to the lions long before Constantine became Emperor. The movement to capitalize on the followers of Christ was the motive. They are very good at selling trinkets and idols. Ask a catholic if they are Christian, no I am a catholic. The fact is that the children of the kingdom ( bride ) were cast into outer darkness. But for Rome to take a stance with Peter worked to their advantage. Sell that that you have and lay it at the feet of the church. Socialism was lifted into power. Paul on the other hand, whose doctrines of liberty and freedom, which make men free is a great threat to control and power. Still today the truth is suppressed within the congregations of denominationalism because of fear of loosing control. Satan is not in the bar but in the pulpit. And from there they move to the county, state, and federal seats of power. Casting doubt and maintaining control is the socialist mode of operation. 13 is a good number, it means rebellion. The thirteenth apostle brought liberty and freedom to thirteen colonies which bear thirteen bars and stripes upon our banner. There are 85 pages in Romans thru Philemon, 8+5=13, There are thirteen books in his writings. John 13:20 states, Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. As Paul tells us in Acts 18:6 and also Acts 28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the gentiles, and that they will hear it. Isaiah 49 the prophecy of Paul, 4+9=13 verse 6, I will also give the for a light to the gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation to the end of the earth. Remember Paul was saved in Acts 9:4, 9+4=13. We do trust upon the arm of the Lord. As President Washington spoke of Gods hidden arm upon which our nation could boast more than any other people.

Very well said Mike !

I will ascribe righteousness to my God. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. As Elihu spake. The author of the oldest book on the planet. He which is perfect in knowledge is with thee. Job, Chapter 36 : 4 thru 9. Read it. It is possible and does continue through time. Arrogance is wondering why somebody else go the prize and you did not.

Archer, if it were self righteous its not worth doing. But if you be called to the charge it is your responsibility. Conscience, I will send the comforter, and he will convict the world of sin, judgment and righteousness. No person is excluded from this presence of the spirit of truth ! the Holy Spirit of Truth.!!

Morality is already defined ! But for those that would frame mischief in a law they would beg to differ with that which good is. Agathos, being good in its character or constitution, is beneficial in its effect. Good trees bring forth good fruit. Corrupt trees bring forth evil fruit. Kalos, Good, excellent in it nature and characteristics. Beautiful by reason of purity of heart and life, and hence praiseworthy ; morally good, noble or honourable , conferring honour which effects the mind agreeably , comforting and confirming. An honest ( Kalos ) heart and (Agathos ) good heart.
Should we continue any further. To say it is not well defined insults common sense.
The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.
Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life. For the ways of man are before the eyes of the Lord, and he pondereth all his goings. His own iniquities shall take the wicked himself, and he shall be holden with the cords of his sins. He shall die without instruction ; and in the greatness of his folly he shall go astray.
As King Solomon says.

Well said Mike !

Very lofty position charged to our founding fathers. Master builders if you will. As Paul being a very zealous lawyer would know, having been brought up at the feet of Gamaliel. Frame work is everything. So are a set of blue prints. No other foundation can be laid other than Jesus Christ and him crucified. Let every man take heed how he build thereon. Great plainness of speech is used. Virtue is required of faith, they are married. The ( measure ) of faith hath been dealt to every man, a particular amount. It is about growing up is it not.
O that the whole truth was preached in every pulpit !, Then our children would be united and not divided as the denominational religious secs teach. Keep the law, be good and confession, then you might get the prize. It is so full of holes, you could not float the boat if you had to ! Doubt is confusion. God is not the author of confusion. Much is spoken of virtue and its attributes. But nothing of Heaven and the dictates of attributes ordained by God through natural law, which is common ground for discussion, and debate.
The Heavens declare the glory of God ; and the firmament showeth his handiwork. Day unto day uttereth speech, night unto night showeth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. With that being said, the knowledge is cyclical in nature. As a certain religious sec, well known for its understanding in the matters of natural law concerning attributes and the dictates thereof do declare. To combine the knowledge of heaven and earth brings harmony to the child of God. Much more consideration and study are needed on these subjects. They are subjective fact. As the laws of nature. Rightly dividing the word of truth as Paul states in 2 Tim 2:15 Allows for notes in the song to have distinction one from the other. Otherwise how can one tell one note from the other.

I'm sure he new a lot of fakes.