“Watch out for the fellow who talks about putting things in order! Putting things in order always means getting other people under your control.”

And, nevertheless, it is always necessary to put things in order.

Put yourselves in order instead of trying to 'fix' other people who aren't broken. This universe we live in did not need human order -- somehow it has managed without our influence (thank heaven). Look at militant, communist, and fascist societies -- there is lots of order and no freedom.

Archer must be joking, when he refers to people putting themselves in order. Or maybe he just does not pay attention to what goes on around him. Or maybe he believes that miost of the crimes committed in American cities are committed by government agents in order to create an illusion of broken people.

The best example of people putting others in order instead of themselves was the GOP in their brush with power the past few years. They had radical ideas of changing things for others not of their persuasion, and got changed themselves big-time. ...privatizing Social Security, tax cuts for their other Greedy-Old-Party contributors, like tobacco companies, drug companies, energy companies, the Holier-Than-Thou Christian Right, etc They "beheld the mote in their brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in their own".(Luke 6:41) Where are they all now?

That is "the best example"? That is ridiculous. But now that the democratic-socialist party is in power, you will see rights being infringed by the government. The party in power is the one that advocates repealing the second amendment, raising taxes, and doing business with tyrannical regimes.

All right, David, maybe there is a better example than the do-gooder, high moral values, faith-based GOP, but it was the best I could think of at the time. You go ahead and name your own best if you can. Remember, I am talking about proven evidence, not hypothetical possibilities.

Oh, I don't know. What about the millions of slaves in the world who are owned by masters and controlled in every aspect of their daily lives.

Spoken by a deist, raised under Jesuits, married a Roman catholic. Everything our Founding fathers held in great disdain, for their socialist activities and slavery instilled. "Whosoever offereth praise glorifieth me: and to him that Ordereth his conversation Aright will I show the salvation of God." Ps 50:23
The messenger of Liberty and freedom beholds our Order,(taxis), is given a military significance. Colo 2:5. it is no wonder Denis would make such a statement. We stand upon natural law and Order. Truly to Restore commonsense.

David, are you saying that I cannot put myself in order? Who can? Will YOU bring order to my life? Or some 'authority?' The church and community cannot bring order to my life, only I can choose to act in harmony or in opposition -- and I am responsible ultimately, as I will have to bear the consequences of my actions whether coerced or not. If I do not put myself in order, someone else will try!

Disagree with this misguidedness.  The individuals messing things up are the creatures you want you under their control.

Correction: I hear of none wanting to put things in order. The individuals messing things up are the creatures who want you under their control.