J. A. Stormer Quote

“The pretence is made that to do away with right and wrong would produce uncivilized people, immorality, lawlessness, and social chaos. The fact is that most psychiatrists and psychologists and other respected people have escaped from moral chains and are able to think freely.”

~ J. A. Stormer

quoting G. Brock Chisolm, psychiatrist. Taken from his updated book, NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON, 1964

Ratings and Comments

Shannon, rapid city

fantastic grasp on the truth! 20% of the population actually think, 80% are just the bewildered herd of sheep.

Ben, Orem, UT

"escaped from moral chains and are able to think freely"?! As if immorality or amorality were freedom! Good grief. This is terrible. Besides, most psychiatrists and psychologists are communists. They don't care for freedom at all. They don't even believe in agency.

Kimo, maui
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Kimo, maui    5/20/10

Freedom from daily slavery makes way for the mind to be free, free minded, a man can excel. The nited States constitution is founded on these principals. From a man who is still mentally free, soon to be a lost thing if we continue down the road to socializim

Kimo, Maui
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    Kimo, Maui    5/20/10

    Ben ur right about the shrinks

    Quency Gardner, winterville, NC 28590

    Among the list of “other respected people,” would such include Madoff; and those who were the leadership of such companies as AIG & ENRON?

    S. TOLO, New York

    The man is an obvious idiot! Apparently his mind is a little too free. The "Respected" group to which he refers is among the lowest of the worlds bottom feeders right next to the Lawyers. It is this very group, to which he is a part, that is the primary cause of this Great Nations decline and if left unchecked, it's ultimate extiction. What a Disgrace!

    Justin, Elkland

    This argument falsely assumes that psychiatrists and psychologists somehow manage to live outside the societal norms, that are predicated on a long-held tradition of right and wrong and operate independently of government. If right and wrong was replaced with "government-enforced morality" I would change to 5 stars.

    Mike, Norwalk

    Any comment here is going to pale in comparison to the enormity of the lie presented by the quote. "There's nothing so absurd that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it." (William James, 1842-1910 the father of modern psychology) It is the addiction of immorality and lawlessness that pays exorbitant salaries to porn watching SEC servants, has caused today's economics, and induced fascism in the rise of the statist theocracy. Uncivilized people, immorality, lawlessness, social chaos and an inability to think freely or clearly are all results of the chains imposed by the quote's pretense.

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    RBESRQ    5/20/10

    It is obvious from your comments of yesterday that no matter how much I try to enlighten this blog your wish is to remain in the dark, I therefore offer my resignation. Editor, you seem to encourage a laissez-faire mentality with your quotes and my time spent elsewhere would be more valuable. I have enjoyed the time spent on LibertyTree and I thank you Eric for all the work you do that has kept this site going. If any wish to write me hate mail or a good word my email address is robken16@gmail.com I wish you all well and success in your future endeavors. True Freedom comes from compassion, discipline (self), detachment (from the holistic sense of the word), and love -- try the detachment first, then discipline, compassion, and last love. I put love last because without the first three true love is impossible. Goodbye! I leave you with this one quote from Buddha (Buddhism is not a religion it is a way): "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."

    Mike, Hickory, NC

    Are you kidding me?? What has Mr. Stormer been smoking?? First of all, he states as "fact" his own personal distorted supposition about the ability of a certain group of "respected people" who have learned to think freely by liberating themselves from all moral responsibility. Simply preposterous! Second, I'd like to know where this group lives; certainly no where on this planet. For were there more than one of them, they would soon fall victim to the very things that an amoral society will inevitably disintegrate into.

    Bangkok, Bangkok


    Carol, Georgia

    When I read that first sentence, that "the pretence (British spelling) is made that to do away with right and wrong would produce uncivilized people, immorality, lawlessness and social chaos," my brain went into a tailspin! That is not a pretense, that is reality. Psychiatrists and psychologists have really messed up a lot of thinking over the years, but this takes the cake. There are no moral "chains;" morals are a guide to the better person within. Morals are what we learn to embrace as we become adults so that we area able to lead happy, productive and successful lives. We would all do well to follow the Ten Commandments, no matter what faith is followed. If nothing else, observe the Golden Rule, which is found in one form or another in almost every society. Look at the categories list below to see where Stormers words will be found to get a sense of who he is. I thought this site is for liberty, not chaos. That is what would come of following Stormers line of thought. This is my first thumbs down rating. If future quotes raise this much ire in me, I'm afraid I will have to unsubscribe as the anonymous writer mentioned above.

    Dr. Dale Smith, Auburn, CA

    All of the comments above say everything I wanted to say, except that a lifetime of missionary service, much of it working in communist lands, makes me know that this writer is one of them. I guess you want to present both sides, but you have never before gone so far out and I've never thought it necessary to comment. Let the left people do their own quotes, liberty tree does not need to do it for them. Dr. Dale Smith

    Editor, Liberty Quotes

    Sorry, folks, for an error. This quote is from G. Brock Chisolm, psychiatrist, and Stormer was merely quoting him in his book. We will fix the source shortly. Cheers!

    Editor, Liberty Quotes

    Robert (RBESRQ), sorry to see you go. Please do stay in touch. (FYI, Buddhism IS a religion -- another of a long line of solar avatar theologies -- but that is a discussion for another day...) Cheers! - Eric Schaub

    John, Washington UT

    I think it stinks

    Snake, St Paul

    WRONG! These people, are a major part of the reason for our societies ills. No one needs to be held accountable; there's always a (reason) for ones actions.

    Laura, NY, NY

    No one is free from moral chains; if they were societies couldn't function. But people disagree on what those chains should be.

    John, Sunnyvale

    "psychiatrists and psychologists" and respected people of that ilk. Funny, and to the point... no moral guidance... otherwise called psycho.

    Patrick Henry, Red Hill

    The nihilism of those who nurture
    psychotic notions of the perfectibility of the civilization of Fallen Man by means of his liberation from morality is boundless.

    In the Garden, liberation from moral constraint was Beelzebub's siren song.

    empty pockets, NO, La

    For one supposedly anti-communist, he's a good little commie.

    jim k, Austin

    Ben, I'm not especially enamored with psychiatrists and psychologists, but to a say most or communists strikes me as a little too much. That's like saying that all Mormons in Utah believe nonsense, oh wait, they do.

    Ronw13, Oregon

    Stormer reveals the mentality of compromise embraced by the communistic protestant denomination at large, sub-secs within the church all seeking pay from their quarter. When embracing Liberty, there is No 10% demand."as a man has purposed in his heart, so let him give, for God loves a cheerful giver." The plate is Not passed from one end, to the other. Exposing the trappings of fence sitters, wholves who refuse to set their congregation FREE. If you dive, dip, sprinkle, dunk, or just wipe with a damp cloth, your a Baptist practicing works of the flesh for justification. Tithing required when exercising the law of works. Which has been taken Out of the way, to allow for the administration of Liberty under grace, the " the law of faith" dominates the landscape.

    E Archer, NYC

    The battle for hearts and minds absolutely relies on the psychiatric profession, which can and does invent disorders that justify institutionalizing a person. All kinds of authority figures have the power to label someone a 'potential danger to themselves or others' which authorizes their arrest, imprisonment, and drugging. Each year the book gets bigger -- every human opinion can be treated as a disorder to be corrected. Social engineers are products of the psychiatric industry. Communism can trace its roots to the psychiatric industry. And they have entrenched themselves in the public education industry.


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