“I answered that the die was now cast; I had passed the Rubicon. Swim or sink, live or die, survive or perish with my country was my unalterable determination.”

To Thomas Jefferson, John Adams wrote: "All of the perplexities, confusions and distresses in America arise from downright ignorance of the NATURE of coin, credit and circulation." (emphasis added) When the nature of coin and credit are such that a few men get both in unlimited amounts with no labor on their part, there is no lie that they won't tell, no distraction that they will not create or no atrocity that they will not commit to insure that they will always get everything for absolutely nothing.

The Republic is dead, long live the Republic. I believe it can be reborn.

Passing the Rubicon is a crossing every individual in America will have to decide whether to make for themselves one day.

Adams is always a tremendous source of inspiration.

I believe the saliant or decisive point for Adams was when he realized who his country was. Some colonialists thought it was Great Britain. In 1860 some thought their country was South Carolina etcetera. So today as the 4th is soon upon us lets think about who is our country.

Anon is right -- if we muster the courage that Adams and the other founders had to face their resistance to being forever subjects to a monarch, we might again rediscover the true meaning of Liberty. Waffler again attempts to twist Adams' meaning into some sort of statist/nationalist BS rather than the INDEPENDENCE for which the revolutionaries fought and died. Sovereignty was always integral and the basis of the rule of law of, by, and for the People. First was freedom from the King who laid claim to all the land, all the people and their labors (and their obedience), then came the compact for a federation of sovereign states made up of sovereign individuals. Yes, that is who Adams was and who we are if we are ready to accept the responsibility that comes with it.

That the patriots had no nationalist, fraternal or feelings of brotherhood as Archer would have us believe is a damnable lie. No war is ever won without unit cohesion and the Continental Army and George Washington had unit cohesion. We have had it ever since.

Waffler, the unit cohesion exists is spirit and the rest will naturally take care of itself no matter how haphazard it may seem to happen.