“No great advance has ever been made in science, politics, or religion, without controversy.”

There is probably an exception to the rule, but generally speaking . . . Digression can make the same claim - with one of the exceptions being the frog's warming pot.

I'll give it four as he had two right HAPPY HOLIDAYS

So there is hope for us here at liberty-tree since we are always controverting each other. Made 2009 will be the year of our great advance on liberty-tree. Which two Robert? Controversy results in catharsis and paradiginm (sic) shift.

Absolutely. That is the nature of the process of Liberation.