Our government should follow the "laws of nature and of nature's God" and then, the above quote would not even be an issue.

Waffler, again I shake my lowered head in unbelief. The individual sovereigns within the de jure States united declared their independence - separating themselves from carnal gods that claimed an ability to create law by way of an empty theological philosophy of men (mostly legal positivism). The founding sovereigns chose to live by and abide "the laws of nature and of nature's God" (Declaration of Independence — 1st paragraph). The second plank of the communist manifesto / unlawful theft of the noble laborer's fruit is antithetical / diametrically opposed to nature's law / Constitutional law / the Lord's perfect law of liberty. The law you reference is in fact, NOT law but rather, a tyrannically enforced usurpation. I was once privileged to participate in research showing the 16th Amendment was never legally ratified. Even if the 16th Amendment was legally ratified, it could not be employed as it would not just modify the Constitution but, it would nullify the very premise / principles / law that was the foundation thereto.

Archer, of course you are right. Growing up, my mother had a Jewish friend that was in the Nazi camps as a young girl (still had her identification number on her arm). She said basically the same thing — that the German Jews were pseudo-communists that could not let go of their wealth. The communists and the corporatists (fascists) always hated each other for their differently applied versions of socialism. I find it amusing that those today who put down fascists so radically lean communistic. Mussolini coined the phrase fascism (a band or bundle of sticks) meaning the State owned everything, either directly or through corporations vs. the communist State that owned everything outright in its own name. I also find it amassing that that today's ignorant communists either can't define what fascism is or make up emotional retorts from a Marxist perspective.

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Waffler, to your point; “A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years”. (Lysander Spooner). Because in fact, the de jure States united were to be an Article IV Section 4 (Constitution) representative republic, where the "laws of nature and of nature's God" (Declaration of Independence) were to exist supreme, "government" would be defined as individual's representing the law and the administration thereof — they would be the government. If those individuals claiming to represent nature's law with an accurate justice thereto, did NOT represent the law or subsequent justice, they are usurpers not of the government. Thus, constitutionally, "we" are NOT the government.

Archer, thank you — we hold this truth to be self evident

Please give me a lawful / finite definition of "right" at nature's law (inalienable or temporary, that which law may/can never take away, etc.) I recognize that mental / spirit helots, serfs, slaves and carnal gods cannot supply such definition as it will speak against their hatred and usurpations of "the laws of nature and of nature's God")

🤪🤣 Waffler, a great argument against democracy.

Waffler, your shallow propaganda is off topic (of course, needing to advance a lie) The single most feared / hated form of government at the time of the founding of this "representing law republic" was democracy.

By example; "democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for supper. liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." (attributed to Benjamin Franklin). 

“A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years”. (Lysander Spooner)

Individual sovereigns complete with intact inalienable rights and liberty at nature's law in a representative republic voted on how best implement administrations of law rather than a democracy's voting on a new master / jailer.

Claiming independence, absolute right(s), individualism or sovereignty over your own body and mind — not conflicting with an other person's independence, absolute right(s), individualism or sovereignty (not the State) will probably get you locked up today. Today, acting as a non-helot / serf / slave to the occupying statist theocracy infesting this land is a criminal offense.

Archer Yep 😁

Sillik, you're a socialist aren't you? As such, your above statement is a lie meant to deceive. 

Eric, THANK YOU ! ! ! for all you do ! ! !  One issue making it harder to be free and independent is the definition of concepts, terms, words, etc. accepted by the occupying tatist theocracy infesting this land (Canada, USA, World) There is NO legal determination on the concept / word "right". What is an inalienable right? There is a lot of lip service to a right to life, a right to be free, etc. — BUT, what is the single finite definition of  "right"? It doesn't exist. A lot of legal lip service is given to independence, freedom, liberty and even law — WHILE — there is no theocratic acceptance of/to anything inside / outside its own power of violence hegemony. 

Revolutionary was clearly stated by the Declaration of Independence. It was, and still is to excel in individual sovereignty, inalienable rights and liberty at "the laws of nature and of nature's God". Nowhere in the world is that revolutionary republican form of government found.

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Waffler, your lie is misleading. The de jure States united's unique jurisprudence derives solely from "the laws of nature and of nature's God" (Declaration of Independence). The current occupying statist theocracy infesting this land does not recognize such lawful premise. Instead, carnal gods lay claim to the words of the Constitution while their hearts and actions are far from it. By a most terse example; the carnal gods infesting this land enforce compelled compliance, government licenses, victimless crimes and larceny with impunity (2nd plank of the communist manifesto, police state confiscations, an ever expanding funny money supply, etc.). Admittedly though, individual sovereignty, inalienable rights / liberty at nature's law rages on in the hearts of the noble free — and as such, those noble free still recognize the Constitution for what it was originally written for.

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Sillik, Your first sentence is a very shallow generality that doesn't mean anything. The Declaration of Independence gave reasons the individual sovereigns changed their allegiance. All forms of legal positivism's philosophies (socialism, divine right of carnal kings, corporeal beings claiming ability to create laws and crimes, etc.) are evil / enslaving and contrary to "the laws of nature and of nature's God". Your second sentence is accurate. Socialism (communism, fascism, Wokeism, etc.) and all legal positivism's philosophies, from inception through fruition, harass, spy, bully and misrepresent — such being antithetical to individual sovereignty, inalienable rights / liberty at nature's law and happiness. The current occupying statist theocracy infesting this land does not accept or even recognize the law of nature or a Constitution based thereon.

Waffler, speaking out both sides of your mouth certainly illustrates the liar that you are. Working for the IRS, you have stated that man's / workers' labors (or any results thereof — money, joy, etc.) are not theirs but rather, the carnal god government's (who's enslavement you enforce)

I like it a lot. There is labor involved in the pursuance of desires.

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Amen, Amen & Amen ! ! ! The occupying statist theocracy infesting this land has sufficiently set forth its national establishment of religion so that, the vast majority of ensuing helots, serfs, and slaves have become completely dependent on their carnal gods (government) for so much — for so long that individual sovereignty, inalienable right and liberty at nature's law has (has, individually / have, in concert) lost all meaning ! ! !

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Sillik, you could positively contribute to your country by help removing socialism's religion and effects and to promote individual sovereignty, personal inalienable rights / liberty at nature's law.

The creator is first and starts the entirety of the in here focused concepts. No creator, nothing here discussed follows. Socialism is: any of various economic, religious and political theories, philosophies or movements outside nature’s law advocating collective or governmental / religious ownership and administration of property (real / chattel / sensorial beings, etc.) along with the means of production and distribution of goods. Carnal gods at all socialism's many forms are those that claim ownership of everything.