“The mind is not a vessel to be filled, but a fire to be kindled.”

Socialism is the challenge of social abilities to create abstinence to destruction. 

Socialism is an extreme challenge to human / noble abilities (individually and socially). The history of socialism for centuries has been that of destruction (abstaining from peace, prosperity and recognition of individual sovereignty, inalienable rights and liberty at nature's law). Socialism not only drains the vessel, it extinguishes all positive mental fires.

Mike, Norwalk, you clearly live in the world of make believe and making it up as you go along. "I made it up I went along, all I need is a miracle."   Socialism is a new ideological alternative eliminating recreational sex and drugs, and incorporating the Fredrick William Sillik principle of the Maximum Wage. 

Hardly a new principle from socialists to restrict the rights of others.  Hitler was a vegetarian, didn't smoke, and didn't drink alcohol — and he prohibited such being consumed around him.  What you fail to address is the "how" to eliminate recreational sex and drugs.  ;-)  Lofty is the ideal, it's the enforcement that is socialism. 

Fred, your version of socialism is nothing but a petty dictatorship — nothing new about it.

No, Mr Archer, I'm not dictating anything. Nature maintains morals and manners must be implemented. You are more the intolerant type, as is associated with Mr Hitler, rejected your obligations for a ordered societal arrangement. Mr Archer, the present conventional populous arrangement can't even hold a simple positive conversation, proof of their negligent practices. Implement the Maximum Wage. 

So is this your new tag line, "Implement the Maximum Wage"?  If you are not dictating, to whom exactly are you telling to implement it?  Your rhetoric is filled with dictates.  My "obligations for an ordered societal arrangement"?  Says who?!  (You, obviously.)  If you proscribe living in harmony with the Laws of Nature, I am with you.  But if I am obligated to live according to an ordered arrangement — i.e. not by consent — then once again you claim power and authority that is not yours, which is classic dictatorial socialism.

Mr, Archer, I am not dictating. I am giving you accurate and evidential reports on how the populous arrangement can be best served for the fair and productive benefit of all. 

Sillik, okay, once again lolololol, hahahaha. WHAT ? ? ? I know, you being the socialist messiah, you have psychic and other powers we mere sentient chattel do not have — SO PLEASE!, enlighten me as to what I'm making up as I go along. I'd like to fix it. By the way — FYI, socialism is NOT a new ideology, no matter how many times you try and pass that lie but rather, a centuries old perversion. Socialism promotes illicit and recreational sex and drugs.

Mike, Norwalk, please refrain from calling me the Messiah, we are dealing with a very primitive mentality. I am social scientist and would not care to much to be crucified. You repeatedly report that Socialism is quite old and widespread, yet I observe no other contributors anywhere on this site or much anywhere else for that matter on the subject, other than me of course. Socialist do not practice recreational sex or drugs, despite some drug dealers and sex traffickers claims.

Mike, Norwalk, you are just making-up BS about the Nazis and trying to associate me with them. You are the intolerant, exploitive Nazis type, not to mention "brutal, perverted."  When a Nazi organization is defeated, there's only way to beat them, and that's become more intolerant, exploitive, "brutal, perverted," then they were.

PS: My scientific credentials are based on  basic reasoning abilities. Your populous arrangement has no science because "hustle is the name of the game." Science has no need or time for games.

Okay, now, because your basic reasoning abilities are nil to extremely flawed and, in a socialist arrangement (an "arrangement" requires a third Party to facilitate the ordering), a psychotic multi-personality has to certify your credentials, how certifiable are you? Because you do not accept individual sovereignty, you can NOT credibly self proclaim your credentials (an oxymoron). From a social scientist's established methodology, please demonstrate how anything you are claiming is even anywhere near accurate. 

What BS am I making up? Please be detailed and use some established scientific methodology.

Mike, Norwalk, you don't make any sense as usual. The biggest gripe and bi*ch in the world about me is: Mr Fredrick William Sillik is always for good, why can't he ever be for me?

Mike, Norwalk, much of what you say is just plain nonsensical, but a good mental health provider cannot just write you off.  I would have abandon everyone else on the entire planet. Trying to salvage what you express he must guide you through to a new advanced mental refinement .

Sillik, through scientific method, please define advanced mental refinement and how it correlates to nature's law. I may be just plain nonsensical at times (thank you for noticing); WHILE, your continuing circular word salad makes NO sense in any dimension you may claim to be currently inhabiting.

Mike, Norwalk, an advanced refinement would be a general respect for life itself, granting life, me, a national acknowledgement of who I am and what I represent.

Sillik, thank you for proving my point. Your messiah complex rationalizes your extremely superficial emotionality, non-existent status and your inability to think critically, attempt scientific methodology and/or definitively explain anything without a circular word salad. "general respect"?; "granting life"? "national acknowledgement of who I am and what I represent."?; "Maximum Wage."?