The "world" is not doing its best to make you like everybody else... people are doing so... people who want to control you... people like the heads of most organized religions! Our education system is there to help us become all that we can be, to discover what is within us that makes us unique... if you are but willing to open your mind and heart to the possibilities.

And I can bear witness against that... those who would believe this are those who would take us back to the dark ages.

If you face any experience as if it were a prison, then you will experience it that way... you get out what you put in... the indictment here is of the students and these writers, not education (or even the system).

It is sadder yet that so many fail to take advantage of the great opportunities that are present, both in the 60s and today.

It is sad that JimK's experience is so negative. Like MeAgain I've found those who want a positive experience out of the education process find it and celebrate it. BobDavis has a wonderful point, the quotes for the past week (or more) have been strangely one sided and highly negative...

You get out of any endeavor nothing more than you put into it... some may thus come out of 15 years of attending schools as bags of wind, but they would arrived at this state with or without formal education. Others invest themselves in the process and thus learn from it, emerging with the sum of their efforts and the efforts of the formal education.

Education (not indoctrination into some belief system, but rather teaching of the skills of thought & investigation & analysis) compliments intelligence. With no intelligence education can not produce more than the slug it is given.

There is so much more to school than being "graded & classified like meat"... this person should never be allowed near children, and there are indeed far too many good teachers in the world to allow such butchers in the classroom!

... and here is a "teacher" who is in reality deserving of all of our disrespect!

Nope, simple fact, the world is full of stupid people!

Pubilc education does not mold clones, parents produce clones by setting the value system of their children.

Education is only a weapon in that an educated person is one which is more likely to have their eyes open and understand what they are seeing. Propaganda and brain-washing are not education! Belief systems are not education!

And likewise, being satisfied with believing is natural to lazy and dull people...

When so many parents are teaching hate as a family value it is good to know that the state is there to take up the slack and show our youth that there is another path.

Far more harm is done daily by abusive parents, be that abuse be intentional or collateral.

... and so it has come to be...

Amazingly good quote... and warren of olathe is an amazing example of the need for it... hey warren, the quote simply says that you are free to have whomever you want to tell you exactly what you can and can not do... and that you are not free to do so to others without their knowledge and consent!

Oh dear me, imagine that... to dare to step upon the shadow of another... oh dear me... the things we have to fear in this world! (Sounds like a quote right out of King George W's &/or McPain's play book actually.)

A double barrel lie.

It is amazing how prohibitionists have no clue about the things they wish to stop and control, while completely ignoring the negative effects of that control, such as how making drugs illegal makes it a money maker for crime organizations... and they do maim & kill people... prohibition is a cure which is far worse than that which it is aimed at.

I prefer it to the concept of paying for work and goods strictly with other work and goods... money makes commerce possible, and paper money has as much value as any other form, be that other form gold (whose only value is that which those who seek it ascribe to it) or bits in a computer (as most today never actually see paper money for their pay or even for most of their fiscal transactions).

I can't help but wonder how this quote could get anything other than thumbs down... that it has gotten any positive votes is even more disturbing to me than the quote itself is...

Actually, the meaning of words change over time, and thus the "written instrument", which is nothing more than words, would have its meaning change over time UNLESS one takes into account the MEANING behind those words AT THE TIME of their writing... you need to examine it in context! So, that which it was meant to mean when adopted is what what it was meant to mean when it was adopted... and even that is little more than a reliance upon interpretation...

This isn't Robinson's quote, it is nothing more than a Shaw quote... and thus does not deserve to be here or rated.

But we can get back on the right course: impeach W & his Dick!