It just goes to show a bad little socialist can have wise counsel. MK, Houston, Some might call it creative accounting.

Precedents do build a foundation for thought, otherwise you must break ground again. Divining of the law is a very old precedent , I do like your point of view Mike. Even as the apostle Paul states in the first book to the Corinthians concerning judgment. 6 : 4, If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are lest esteemed in the church. A jury, Considering this nation as a whole, being the church. Quite the precedent to draw from for inspiration.

It all depends on which dog you feed. one will bring honour, the other dishonour. But the word is used in a wide range of application. Kabod, There are two nuances of the word. One is position in your own sphere which can be lost through wrong actions or attitude . The other of social distinction and position. As also in bravery, the medal of honour. The heart of man is continually to do evil, case in point, with the unrighteous man and his thoughts, as Solomon says, but conscience on the other hand is conviction by the Holy Spirit of Truth to do that which is right. No one is excluded. Regardless of the belief or lack of, in the Creator, The God of Nature. The God of the King James Bible. And in regard to him, honour is used in great majesty for those that worship God. As a sovereign God who is the governor of all nations.

Yes, claim jumpers usually smile to your face, while their partners comes from behind and nock you in the head and steal what is yours.!! Conmen say one thing, and do another, just like a crooked used car salesman. The simple walk in and are taken in the trap. That is why we hire a Sheriff to run them out of town. Unless we do it ourselves. Old story just new players in a bigger town, called our nation. Unawares brought in long ago to spy out our liberty and freedom should have never been allowed, not for one hour to set up shop. To wish to perpetuate a slave state by giving quarter to your enemy is turning a blind eye to the one that will kill you ! Such as allowing our enemy to enlist in our Armed Forces. This current administration and its leaders are very determined to destroy the last of the individualist for good, and the blood that runs in our veins. Just as on a foreign shore in a country were there is no fear of God before their eyes. Through emigrational overburden and the sanctioning of all the perverted behavior they wish to force upon us, We are for peace, but they are for war, against the upright to steal away our right to be morally upright in our guarded community. To even speak on there behalf as to condone their behavior after the thought which shows their intention, is lukewarm standing. But from a lawyers stand point if he takes pay from the good and bad, he does a disservice to that which is good. Only perpetuation the apostasy that grips the country and the world.

Mike makes the point so well over and over again. Oppression, the yoke of usury, interest on a loan, oppression with a sting, Liberty and freedom have been so far removed in such a short period of time from the eyes and ears of our children, they no not, what it is. Credit based economy is not wise but only perpetuates socialism in the fullest extent. And shows the power of the ( banksters ) thugs, and gangsters, to control the slave and police state. A direct tax on income and property reduces the sovereign freeborn to a slave. And as in ancient Rome one must purchase their freedom, sound familiar ? If the oath, I and we have taken to uphold our Constitution and the Liberty and Freedom, These doctrines so sacred for our children has been lost to greed by way of sanctioned usury and corporate privilege which blinds our leaders through greed and fear of lose of their privilege. If the leaders in our ranks are not willing to have the backbone to take a stand and return to our children their rightful state and standing of liberty and freedom , then the oath to defend the Constitution is worthless. If that is what they think or is their resolve, then we are reduced to each man and woman for themselves as if on a foreign shore in a Godless country where there is no fear of God before their eyes. Where is our Core, in time of need ? Where are our defenders of this lost liberty and freedom we so wish to hold onto. Even surfs and slaves in a benevolent kingdom are not kick to the curb and allowed the stealing away of their bed. The king is served by the field as Solomon says, And if the princes rise early and eat for drunkenness, not taking care of the children. They are as a servant in a place of rulership. Does the king tax his children or strangers ? Strangers, then the children are free. As our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ states. Get the point, you can not have it both ways. We have been reduced to a slave police state as was Israel 2000 years ago.!! Though still under the grace of God in our country, who ordained liberty and freedom for the children of the kingdom, they would not, and returned to enslave their brother. Time and time again. Man seems never to learn not to oppress. Which has been this experiment of administering through the grace of God committed to the apostle Paul these doctrines of liberty and freedom.!! Which our founding fathers held so dear. You can not get out of this box by perpetuating or following that which oppresses the freeborn sovereign.

When people are herded and held down long enough, they don't want to even sweep their on doorway. To live like a king, perhaps three blocks down on money street behind a big gate, if only, they think, I will sweep their door that I might eat tonight, but only to have their bed taken away for lack of the property tax. They would only let me sweep the doorway, rather than give me lodging and a job to take care of their estate. People, some, want to live like kings and queens but give no quarter to the servants. If they wish to have slaves they should be treated accordingly, which is better than sweeping their doorway and sent away to fend for yourselves in a country that has no fear of God before their eyes, which is why we have been reduced to such a throwaway society. Cold hearted like a stone, willing to let die rather than educate and set free. Giving quarter to your children and the right to live free !!!

It is easy to see, that corporate privilege ( stolen rights ) but not at all complete, gives edge to those that have it. Not wishing to give up their privilege, but only when threatened do both parties seem to understand that to much socialism will take their privilege away. Neither wishing to return the right to the sovereign by removing the oppressive arm of payroll and property tax. Usury by way of definition, is oppression with a sting. And should not be allowed upon the ( sovereign ) who is set at liberty and freedom, in any form. Being reduced to a herd of ignorant cattle, (slaves ) has taken not to many years. Only for those that as in times past, like ancient Rome, one must purchase his or her freedom for a period of time, or until the money runs out. The inspirational laws and dictates of liberty and freedom have been so far removed from the freeborn sovereign, by way of the educational system or the lack of truth allowed in the class room. It will take only the strongest constitution of leadership and the willingness to suffer persecution in the battle to take control, and return our original state and standing to our children. This will take backbone and unity in the highest rank to restore order for our children sakes. Otherwise our oath to defend the Constitution is worthless. And it is each man and woman for themselves, living in a Godless country on a foreign shore. My parents and grandparents and a few more back, did not shed their blood to support a country as this has become.

There again, their brand of socialized freedom only spreads more unionized work forces, bringing about mob rule. They like to say freedom to the workers, but like the cartels to our south, they bring prostitution and degrading behavior, drugs and thugs, just as was brought into the east coast at the turn of the last century. We do not need another Amsterdam, but perhaps NYC and other cities that have so little moral restraint, wish to embrace their perverted behavior, Live and let live is not a good creed to follow if you wish to protect a morally upright family unit, of our design under our Republic founded upon moral uprightness. In the old days you would run them out of town, or back across the ocean to where they came from. Do it there not here.!

Neutral and naturalistic statement. Negative frame of mind. But yes we are responsible for everything we do. If we do that which is good, we will have praise of the same. There is a hint of truth in the statement, but not condemnation, a sore travail given to men.

No, not with out moral restraint and guidance. But always a good question to be answered. Those that behave the best are governed less. If I keep the true and just law, I will walk at liberty.

Amen ! again.

Anonymous, At first a child of faith is conceived, corn and wheat are planted in the garden, and they do grow to produce fruit. Then there are trees planted in the garden By God, flames and sparks are quite different according to Isaiah, There are two words for know that are quite different also. I will state quite simply there is revelation of knowledge in Christ, when your eyes of understanding are opened. The awakening is very absolute. Stated clearly in the 10th bk of the N.T. 10 is the number of the gentiles in a KJB. If of all books to give a person, this would be it. Ephesians Ch 1:17,18. That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ , the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him. The eyes of your understanding being enlightened ; that you may( know) what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints. As also confirmed in Ephesians 3:16 thru 19. That he would grant you , according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth and height; And to ( know ) the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that you might be filled with all the fullness of God. With that being said, that is a direct reference to the universe !! The amount of proof is absolute, with out question, to them whom are the called according to his purpose. The new creature is alive and well. Which I've been ask to teach upon.

Just remember the King James Bible is not for private interpretation. As President George Washington kissed the King James Bible when he was elected President. THE ROCK UPON WHICH THE REPUBLIC REST !! Then was awarded the 13th level of the Scottish Rite. There is that number again 13. Thirteen steps on the pyramid also. Thirteen is the number of rebellion according to the King James Bible. Scotland is where the translation was completed into English. The story is easily traced. That is the story of Liberty and Freedom according to the Sacred Text in Greek Hebrew. This printed text is commonly called the Textus Reseptus ( received text ) New Testament that is, containing our doctrines of Liberty and Freedom. It is the text used by the Protestant reformers during the Reformation. It is from this Textus Reseptus that the King James Bible was made. In the Textus Receptus God provided a trustworthy printed New Testament text for the Protestant Reformers and for all Believing Christians down to the present day. Thus the printing of it was, after all, no accident but the work of God's special providence. It is evident that the Text was preserved publicly rather than privately to preserve in His Church the true New Testament Text. Neutral and naturalistic views of the Bible are where non believers dwell. It always leads to the denial of the inspiration of the Bible. I Think President George Washington would have a problem with that point of view !

So true, Archer, the same as Hitler did ! Same old play just different players.

It is a two edged sword.

Not one.

Rick, Yes some do learn, but it is our responsibility to teach others. That is why teachers are call. it is part of the missionary calling. So true Mike, so true. What will it take to pluck them out by the roots ? Pull the weeds !! That is why we have the Core, of whom I have had the privilege to serve !! Five stars for the United States Marine Core !!

They want somebody to make their bed and build their home for next to nothing. Then move away and don't live to close. Pilfering servants tips as they go. Besides there is no profit in leaving every body alone. To live fence to fence is not good. Just like water rights, return the property to the oldest claim. Reston your view of hunters and fishers is that of a city dweller that thinks trees are purple with pink trunks. Claim jumpers wont dig it out for themselves. Just before the industrial revolution 93% of the work force was on the farm. and that is a good place to be. Many wish they were there now. An elk in the freezer and a stack of fire wood is better than a piece of worthless paper in an empty store. Ed, the one in the white house, his days are numbered, all they do is replace him with one just like him. With the beginning of socialism, started the money grab, with the property tax, started the land grab, ROBERY, RAISE THE TAXES THEY WILL HAVE TO SELL.GREED,GREED,GREED ! Push the little man aside and hold him down with there boot on your neck.

Freedom and liberty with out moral restraint is self destruction.
When property tax began at the end of the civil war, we all lost ! When you have a credit based economy, one can never climb out of the hole. Raising the bar at every turn. Revoke the central bank charter.! As President Jackson did.! The quote is two sided. They do block the exercise of that power. Don't they.

There again it is the parents responsibility to deprogram their children when the state wishes otherwise. As my parents followed their conscience, moving us out of state for an education in the formative years. Seeing, they took responsibility to assure a better chance, it instilled also in myself not to trust the transient ways of socialistic government.
It is so true Mary ! But if the parents are kept ignorant and complacent , usually the children will stay that way also. Taking the hand out, rather than better themselves. It is work to learn. It takes will to want, an education.

Yes Archer, two words ( In Amen ). The first and last word of the King James Bible. Ref: Rev 3:13,14,15,16 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. And to the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thou works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth.

I always look forward to hearing from you, Publius, Your words ring so true. ! To only wish you would speak with us more. From the servant to the judge and all points higher. No mater what it gives or takes. Justice. Humility before honour.
Psalm 91:14,15,16. Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name. He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him. With long life will I satisfy him and show him my salvation.

Bingo, Mike !! Five stars to Mike.

Archer, if there is anything that can teach a child good understanding is mathematics, for numbers do not lie !
I was taught the whole Bible not just a part of it. That is the King James Bible. Greek and Hebrew. ( not Latin ).
And yes it can be summed up in two words, The first and the last words of the book ( IN AMEN ) Revelation Ch 3 : 13,14,15,16
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God. I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm , neither cold nor hot, I will spew the out of my mouth.

To know thyself is not always pretty. Aletheia, truth in all its fullness and scope.