“Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.”

Another sad state of affairs when men entrusted with keeping liberty and freedom alive are so caught up in dishonesty, lies, gimmicks, and distortion. 5 stars for the honesty of the comment, a thumbs down for sad state of affairs.

I have to agree with Logan here again but, five stars for the smile and head bobbing the quote brings.

I don't trust politicians to protect my liberty and freedom nor do I trust the NRA to trust my 2d Amendment Rights. Reagan is funny here and as they say good humour has a strong element of truth. To be a pollyanna, liked by many, one must put out, whether it is money, favors, or compliments and hand shakes. Reagan used his considerable wiles to prostrate and f#$% the average American person by lowering income taxes on the wealthy and raising social security taxes on the less wealthy. He used the increase in social security taxes to fund his star wars etcetera and set into motion the deficit spending and national debt we now have. A portion of that debt around a trillion is owed by the general tax fund to the social security fund. He knew something about prostitution. Five for humor!

PS: As of July '05 the National Debt or General Fund owed Social Security $1.7 trillion.

Waff, I love it when you use that tired old arguement about "lowering taxes on the rich". The democrats have been using this for years to divide the country and get us boobs to vote for them. And why shouldn't the "rich" get tax breaks, they are the ones who create jobs for the rest of us and they already pay most of the income taxes. So please retire that old chestnut, it's about worn out.

Yeah, and the venereal disease of politics is a rampant epidemic. I'm glad to see that Waffler admits that the US government's debt is a lot bigger than he originally claimed. Just where is 1.7 billion going to come from? And you can add the other TRILLIONS that are owed for other things. Every single 'dollar' in existance whether it was printed, via cheque, or electronic transfer has been 'borrowed' (i.e. created out of nothing other than a 'promise' to pay) at interest and has to be paid back. Talk about getting proper f@#$ed.

Buffet (the richest man in the world) is a Democrat, supports Obama and says "tax me". There is only one reason to tax the rich and it is the same reason that Dillinger said that he robbed banks "that is where the money is". When the "rich" get tax breaks they buy US Government Bonds and collect US Government interest. If they create jobs I would suggest they start doing so real soon. My understanding is they employ illegals who they can manipulate and don't have to pay benefits. The rest of their money they invest overseas. In the last eight years with Bush's significant war deficit and tax cut they have gotten a nice war dividend. It is not an "old" chestnut Jim it is as true and new today as it ever was.

Holy cow, Waffler -- are you sure you want to be so honest when you say, "There is only one reason to tax the rich and it is the same reason that Dillinger said that he robbed banks "that is where the money is" "? At least you admit that taxing the rich is armed robbery. You've said it all. Is there no limit to whom you may rob? You made your living in the tax game -- you are nothing but a bandit and a thief and support the candidate who will steal for you. Disgusting.

And he should know! well said Ronald old chap.

If Buffet wants to pay more in taxes, let him write a bigger check but don't speak for others. Taxing the rich is the democrat way of dividing the country and buying votes. Do you really think that multimillionaires like Pelosi , Reed, and Boxer have any notion of paying more in taxes.The idea of raising taxes on the rich is just a lib politicians way of getting the have nots fighting with the haves and buying their vote.

Any 'Robin Hood' who thinks the rich should be taxed because that's where the money is, or because they only invest in Government bonds, should ask himself when was the last time a poor man gaave him a job. Then, he should tour Communist countires as I have and see what happends when Governments control the money. Socialism, (legalized theft), is not pretty nor prosperous.

Don't raise the richs' taxes just return them to where they were before Bush unwisely cut them. Listen George what is the difference between collecting tax or selling bonds. Both methodologies take money out of the private economy. The second method requires the payment of interest. When politicians say that they are going to cut taxes they are really saying "I am going to sell bonds". Most bond issues "municipals" have a date certain to be paid back to the lender. These bond issues are carefully planned and taxes or fees are raised over the life of the bonds in order to pay them off on the date certain. When Uncle Sam sells bonds he never promises to pay them back. That is an error. Sam should plan to pay off his debts just like anyone else or like any other government, local or state. Who or what would you tax George? You have not been listening to the current brouhaha on Wall Street, many commentators say it was caused by greed. People don't always use their money to give people jobs, unless you consider British Rolls Royce workers as the people you are thinking about or Italian Maserrati workers. You get my drift. The fact is the US Government was about $500 billion in debt sometime in the '60's Reagan got in and he and his people said deficits and National Debt does not matter and he gave a big tax cut. Now we are in 9 trillion dollars in debt. Do you think debt does not matter? Any suggestions on how to resolve this problem?

Huh, Waffler? Your response is completely nonsensical.

Any 'Robin Hood' who thinks the rich should be taxed because that's where the money is, or because they only invest in government bonds, should ask himself when was the last time a poor man gave him a job. Then, he should tour Communist contries as I have and see what happens when Governments control the money. Socialism, (legalized theft), is neither pretty nor prosperous.

George, you nailed it.

BTW, Buffet is not the richest man in the world -- not even close. The stockholders of the Federal Reserve own every 'US dollar' (i.e. Federal Reserve Note) in Buffet's portfolio. The Bank of England owns every 'pound.' And owners of the IMF/World Bank own the Fed and Bank of England as well as the 'banks' of nearly every nation on Earth -- we owe them every dollar we have (and more) and are paying them interest for the 'privilege'. The Rothschild's are the undisputed masters of commerce worth about 100 trillion dollars. The Rockefeller's are worth about 10 trillion dollars -- but it is all relative since they own the money supply and 'dollars' are whatever they say they are. They, in fact, own everything Buffet has -- and everything anyone has from Bill Gates to Google. 'Money' today is nothing but 'debt' -- promises to pay. As far as land goes, the Queen of England is the largest land-holder in the world followed by the Roman Catholic Church -- and none of these folks are taxed -- they are the ones doing the taxing. Sorry to burst your bubble, folks, but these people know who they are, even if the rest of us don't.

quit being an idiot waffler

Brilliant post Warren, just brilliant.

Buffett does NOT say "tax me", he has made sure he pays VIRTUALLY no taxes at all. He says TAX EVERYONE ELSE BUT ME. Nor will he pay a dime in estate taxes he thinks are great for everyone else. Nope, each of his kids will enjoy an 8 figure income (think about it) income with a dime of estate or transfer tax. Why do you think he pays no dividends on his funds? He is like Spanos and Turner, rich people who think everyone else should pay but them. I call that a hypocrite.