“He that wrestles with us strengthens our nerves, and sharpens our skill. Our antagonist is our helper.”

What doesn't kill us, makes us stronger. -- Nietzsche

Aw, Waffler, did you hear that -- you're my helper.

Oh, I get it. So government really IS good for us?

Roxana, Logan and Bryan, I like it. Put it all together and wa-la

Yes Logan I hear you. And you sir and all of the wonderful participants on this site give me pause to think and wonder also. Thank you all. "In the depths of each man's biography lies the story of all men" Sam Kean. "I must confess, that, personally I have learned many things I never knew before....just by writing." St Augstine.

Another reason monopolies are bad, for that which does not have competition has no reason to improve and grow, and that which is not growing is dying.

With honest debate, we all come to know truth.

I like this. We must debate, then only will we see the truth or understand things. Even if understanding or seeing truth is not a motive, we should at least talk, that way we will know strength and weakness within us or within the opponent. This whole preemptive action or preventive action is a mockery of human intelligence.

Hi, we're from the government and we're here to antogonize you. :)

So, we're all just honing each others' skills of reason, rhetoric, and argument. I think you're all very beneficial as long as you don't give me a stroke. As the saying goes, dose makes the poison.

Ah yes... this guy strikes me as sort of a militant John Stuart Mill.

Our antagonist is our helper only to the extent to which we are so objective to him as to be well equipped to enable him to be our helper.

Certainly gets my attention and narrows my focus .

" As the refining pot for silver, and the furnace for gold; so is a man to his praise. Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thy own lips. Iron shapeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend. Open rebuke is better than secret love. Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful." Proverbs chapter 27. The antagonist dwelling in " Matstsah" debate, a contentious quarrel in defense of " Keciyl " foolishness, insolvent in religion seeing the wicked florish thinking they have the right life style. a very weak defense. As for being our helper, " I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be manifest among you." This in defense of Liberty and Freedom from a "Kalos"good heart, engaged in Ruwb, to rebuke thoroughly, debate, pleading, Riyb, a legal case in defense of our Creator. " Make them intelligent, and they will be vigilant. Liberty exists in proportion to wholesome restraint. Guard the people against the dangers of good intentions." Daniel Webster.