“And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.”

Great!

Amen!

Amen and Alleluia! 'Tis the night of our Dear Saviors birth. Wishing everyone a Blessed Christmas and a Blessed and bountiful New Year!

Not 'give us this day a banking stimlus'... The only way to fix the corrupt and iniquitous money system is to let it crash, and let the debts go. It won't be easy, but it is a Christian act that cannot be avoided if we wish to be free. The People do not need to be loaded with debt for their survival -- with unpayable debt, we survive only to keep paying, we are not prospering but merely enslaved.

This is the problem with America they take the bible literately... Archer, good, but the truth is there is NO DEBT - they want you to think there is debt so you remain a slave but in reality there is no debt, there is nothing to forgive - I'm afraid Jesus had this one wrong.

i KNOW God forgives ME. Lord, grand me the power to forgive the IRS

The debts that the Lord Christ speaks of is not only money, its any trespass upon a person by someone else; its an injustice done to one by another. We should forgive people when they insult us or even cause us harm, but that does not mean that we should pervert justice. Everyone must sew what they reap, everyone must be punished for their crimes, and everyone should pay back any money they borrow. You can punish someone for their crimes or hold them to their debts without having malice or hatred toward them. And RBESRQ, the problem with America is not that we take the Bible literally, its that too many of us, like you, don't take the Word at all. If you believe that Jesus Christ had anything wrong and you are right; that you are somehow wiser and more rightous than the Lord of Lords and King of Kings, than I pray that you receive forgiveness for your blasphemy and I pray for your salvation. We have a disagreement, you and I; you believe God doesn't exist and I believe the contrary and worship Him. If I am wrong and you are right, we shall both meet the same fate. But if you are wrong and I am right, you will be cast into a lake of fire where there is fierce cries of pain and gnashing of teeth. Please review your choice because you are betting more than you can possibly imagine on a mere theory.

How does this square with the before quoted Proverb. If the rich would forgive debt would they still be rich?

This applies to we the people, not we the banksters!

Yes, and who were the money lenders who wrote this - the new testament like the old is a myth and nothing in its content should be take as sacrosanct. It is the biggest fraud of all time....do your research and you will find a hole big enough to ........................

Publius, surely you don't believe in a hell. If a God would throw someone into a lake of fire, forever, then this cannot be a God worth worshiping.

We must forgive in order to be forgiven. We all know that we are not perfect.

Maybe no-one owes nothing to no-one ? That way, there would be not be no debts for no-one, no how. Gee, does that describe socialism ?

Robert, I've done the research and I've found more truth in the bible than any government seminary's book(s). Take for example the Christ's above quote; - forgiving other's transgressions and debts heals a cankering heart and soul. Forgiving debt (using Publius above's statement) can even heal a gay bigots anger when thinking of those that persecute him.

The year of jubilee 2015, " In the year of this jubilee ye shall return every man unto his possession. And if thou sell aught unto thy neighbor, or buyest aught of thy neighbor's hand, ye shall not oppress one another. He that hath pity upon the poor lendeth to the Lord; and that which he hath given will he pay him again. A good man showeth favour, and lendeth: he will guide his affairs with discretion. ( Lev 25:13,14. Pro 19:17. Psalm 112:5.) Therein is Christ making mention of the jubilee. The ancient law of Liberty as described in Jeremiah proclaiming Liberty in all the land. Chophshiy liberty, freedom from bondage and tax, at your pleasure, Eleutheria liberty, manumission from slavery, Apeleutheros liberty, access to the presence of God. The light that shines in a dark place, and he was numbered with the transgressors. Gen 1:3 And God said, let there be light, and there was light. 13 laws of morality regarding lending and barrowing of individuals set at Liberty within their nation separated unto God. We are endowed by our Creator. !! Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good , and thou shalt have praise of the same. Romans 13:1,3 The poor and the deceitful man meet together: the Lord lighteneth both their eyes. Pro 29:13.

Get the picture, 13 bars guided by the stars above. Tokens from God for our reassurance. As there are 13 steps on Jacob's ladder of understanding. 13 steps on the pyramid guided by God's eye of enlightenment. I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will guide thee with mine eye. Psalm 32:8. Pay close attention to the sum of those last numbers.