“There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him.”

"...pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him." This sounds like Obama's universal government healthcare system. Tyrannical? Absolutely!

No better way to describe Obamacare.

The quotes are really lousy and half baked today. Obama-care is not about what Publius says it is about the tyranny of uninsured people using "our" emergency rooms and not paying. Then govermental health agencies must bail out the hospitals. It is also about the tyranny of actuaries and insurers who see the easy way to make a killing.

I truly believe this is true for Obamacare because those that are uninsured are usually so because they rather have the luxuries of life before the necessities.

I don't want weapons of mass destruction... I don't want torture... I don't want warrantless wiretapping... I do want every citizen who wants it to have health care and education and a roof and food!

It is true of the majority of American foreign and domestic policy. You're being robbed to pay for things you would not willingly pay for if you...weren't being robbed.

Yet a third quotation without sufficient background to form any opinion.

This quote doesn't need "sufficient background" to be understood. Obama Care is a great example of this quote. Anonymous, we all want citizens to have food ,health care,etc, but not by government stealing from producers and giving to non-producers.

Reston, I do not want WMDs, torture, or warrantless wiretapping either, nor do I want to pay for it! But it is not nor has it ever been the job of the government to provide food and housing for the People -- never! People MUST learn how to provide for themselves, or die! Yes, I am sure you lefties are also for reduction in human population, so let people who cannot provide for themselves be the first to go -- who else? Those that provide for their families with an honest trade? The fact is, that people help people when there are no other options -- that is why people who are broken and bleeding ARE treated at private hospitals regardless of ability to pay. And Waffler, those hospitals are not 'yours' -- typical leftist BS that the hospitals and schools are 'ours.' The goal of making everything 'ours' is communistic at best. Insurance is not a right, it is a for-profit business, it is a form of gambling. People who have not protected themselves enough from dying may indeed die -- we will all die eventually, that is something the left should remember. Some projects will and must fail eventually. That is life.

No one should be forced to support others with the fruits of his/her labor. That is slavery.

Silly quote

An almost perfect set of words. Governments are necessary for protection from all sorts of things, as well as the protection of a few things. And that costs money, thus was born the Tax. And a Constitution to limit the things a tax might be required to pay for, you accept that as part of your Citizenship. Those commenting against it and or on Obama Care forget a few things. People who can't pay are now treated at hospitals because of a Law passed back when they would refuse even a bleeding dying person treatment if they couldn't pay. There was a time when Physicians were more interested in practicing their ability to heal than the bottom line. They would even barter for their services, a chicken for the table was worth something. Of course the Government didn't want half of all the things it couldn't spend. People would pay what they could afford, and they would so today if it was allowed, but it isn't. Today it's all about the money, and it must be tracked every minute and every time it changes hands. Almost every time money changes hands there is a tax. Anyone ever wonder if all these Money problems, the rampant Greed of recent years, that brought about the collapse we are paying for and then some now, might have anything to do with the rise in status back in the 80's of the once lowly MBA, the rush to get one because starting salaries were $100,000 or more, and then Greed was Good [I hear it's legal now], cocaine residue was on 80% of all the money, credit was easy, and the race for the most toys, and money was on; and an office visit to the Doc was only $10 or $15, and even at minimum wage there was a house you could afford to buy. The Great Divide, between the haves and havenots, grew exponentially, if you were on the [have] money side great for you and life was good. If not your same dreams moved farther away every month until like a ship's sails passing the horizon they could no longer be seen, and you knew they were gone forever. You watched as your whole world, your country was sold out from under you, bit by bit, even your job, and finally even your home was gone. What does a drowning man do when he sees a hand reach out to save him? How will he react to someone pulling that hand away? And how easy will he be to manipulate with the promise of that hand coming back? It would have been oh so cheaper to have kept the Country intact and out of debt. To have stopped any need for a helping hand before it developed was the better move. That is how you stop Tyranny and all it's Kin from ever taking root.

Stranger in a strange land

as always Waffler is half baked

very appropriate, when it comes to ALL federal government meddling in the affairs of each sovereign state.

This quote applies perfectly to Obamacare, SS and Medicare. All blatant attacks on freedom under the guise of doing what is best for you. Rather than just helping those in need, what it really does is force an entire population into indentured servitude to the ruling political class.

This Quote applies equally to Chemotherapy! I suppose if we could only apply Chemotherapy to the Cancer of society namely "Rothschild and Rockefeller" and anyone else with the invitation and license of government to make money out of nothing but paper and ink. They then charge interest on the capital amount. This is also why the debt can never be repaid. Understand this and your half way there to understanding the,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,deception and theft of all that is and the subsequent enslavement of mankind.

Social Security, Obamacare, Medicare. This quote applies to all. Helping those in need is charitable forcing a nation of free people into dependency on government is an abomination.

warren, olathe You give waffler too much credit.

The de jure States United was to be a land of liberty. Liberty is The power of acting as one thinks fit, without any restraint or control, except from the laws of nature. (Bouviers Law Dictionary) Liberty is the exemption from extraneous control. The power of the will, in its moral freedom, to follow the dictates of its unrestricted choice, and to direct the external acts of the individual without restraint, coercion, or control from other persons. Liberty is the right which nature gives to all mankind of disposing of their persons and property after the manner they judge most consistent with their happiness, on condition of their acting within the limits of the law of nature, and so as not to interfere with an equal exercise of the same rights by other men. (Blacks Law Dictionary 1st ed.) Liberty: "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." (Thomas Jefferson) Tyranny is the arbitrary or despotic violation of liberty and the laws or nature and of natures god; autocratic exercise of force contrary to an individual sovereigns inalienable rights and will. Theft in the name of tax (in the name of anything) is tyranny. Usurpation of liberty's choices for economic reasoning (unwanted economic support for a means or ends for example) is tyranny. A despot's forcing another for his supposed good is tyranny. Welcome to Amerika - a prime example of tyranny.

The road to perdition is paved with the affectedly good intentions of those for whom the acquisition of power is a monomaniacal pursuit.

By his own lights, Beelzebub's intentions, in the Garden, were "good."

The Tyrannical and UN-Constitutional "Obamacare"

An oppressive Taskmaster soon looses their labor in a Free society and Market. Unless held at the receiving end of a weapon. Good intentions sometimes start with afflictions. Which are trials of the pious ( righteous ) individual. A three fold process from dependent to independence, as concerning God's covenant to man, starting in the " Garden. " with Adam, who new the Creators covenantal name, Yhovah, " The Lord, self Existent or Eternal " Seth call his son Enoch " man as a weak and dependent creature." and began to ( with all other pious persons ) to call upon ( formally worship ) the name of Yhovah, " The Lord" Gen 4:26. The covenant found a fuller expression and application when God revealed Himself to Abraham ( Gen 12:8 ) promising redemption in the form of national existence. This promise became reality through Moses, to whom God explained that He was not only the " God who exist " but the " God who effects His will " I have surly seen visited you, and seen that which is done to you in Egypt. And I said, I will bring you up out of the affliction of Egypt unto the land of the Canaanites..." ( Ex 3:15-17 ) God explained the meaning of " I am [ Hayah ] who I am [ Hayah ] " the verb makes a strong statement noting a noticeable presence of power underlying divine forces that will affect them. More than a statement of idenity, It is a Declaration of divine control of all things. The God who made the covenant was the God who kept the covenant. A Legal position and point of ref. the force of the verb in ( Gen 1:3 ) in which God said, " Let there be Light." He accomplished His word so that there was Light. Confirming the occurrence of the event by use of the verb, Hayah. Such is the birth of our Nation and the divine forces of the Creator and His noticeable effects.

Absolutely such arrogant thinking requires not only the theft of money but the theft of individual freedom.

There is no greater good than liberty.