“There's nothing I like less than bad arguments for a view that I hold dear.”

(-; ok, I like it ;-)

Bad arguments for good ideas are indeed counter productive. If you want to promote something you have to have not only a sound argument, but a convincing one. Simply saying that International Bankers are an evil cancer on society probably won't convince anyone of anything but it might make them doubt your sanity. So show them a movie. Americans like movies! ;) ...http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173

Yea movies are the best form of propaganda out there. When you see it you will think it happened in your subconscious. Like Shelly Winters said at the Lee Strasburg Theater and Film Institute - "We are not here to entertain. We are here to change the world for the better through our craft."

Good point Warren, and one to be noted. The link I provided is both entertaining AND educational. Yes its meant to plant an idea ;-)

J Carlton, been there and done that and I sure hope many many more will be able to say the same thing some day. An excellent and superb video and nothing is more eye opening and convincing than when Aaron finally gets his interview with the ex-director of the I.R.S. The contempt he shows for Aaron should be taken personally by every American who watches the video.

"The contempt he shows for Aaron should be taken personally by every American who watches the video."...Its the same contempt a feudal lord would have shown for his peasants. Damn Straight !!Americans should be taking it personally. They're being robbed blind by these criminals.

Like those arguments for 'democracy' instead of 'liberty' and for 'security' instead of 'responsibility', for 'progress' instead of 'productivity'. The battle for the world is a battle for definitions.

Bad arguments of today include character assassination by ad hominems instead of facts and evidence associated to correlation / causation. Bad arguments use spin on a minuscule number of events for examples with theocratic interpretations thereof instead of illuminating the whole's substance. Bad arguments parrot propaganda sound bites instead of analyzed historical truisms. Bad arguments limit themselves to philosophical ethos such as legal positivism instead of the the laws of nature and of nature's God of what 'is'. AND far too often, carnal depravities and immediate gratifications are used as a foundation of bad arguments instead natural law understandings of moral principles.

In this day of the fundamental denial of, the willful, commonly conditioned or studied, disbelief in the existence of Objective Truth, by what may well be a plurality of the population, argumentation assumes its most contemptible, uninformed and unconstrained by facts, form, serving almost exclusively as a vehicle for the advancement of the agendas of ambitious, unscrupulous, fear and power mongering ideologues.

Another true statement, but very unwise to trust the messenger !

Aw, shucks.